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Texas Department of Transportation Commission Meeting
Commission Room
Dewitt Greer Building
125 East 11th Street
Austin, Texas
9:11 a.m. Thursday, February 22, 2001
COMMISSION MEMBERS:
JOHN W. JOHNSON, Chair
ROBERT L. NICHOLS
DAVID M. LANEY
RIC WILLIAMSON, Appointee
STAFF:
CHARLES W. HEALD, Executive Director
HELEN HAVELKA, Executive Assistant, Engineering Operations
PROCEEDINGS
MR. JOHNSON: Good morning. It is 9:11 a.m. and I would like to call this
meeting of the Texas Transportation Commission to order. I would like to welcome
you to our February 22 meeting. It is a pleasure to have you here this morning.
Let me note for the record that public notice of this meeting containing all
items of the agenda was filed with the Office of the Secretary of State at 11:03
a.m. on February 14, 2001.
Before we get started I would like to ask my colleagues on the commission if
they have any remarks or comments they would like to make.
David Laney?
MR. LANEY: It's just nice to see the turnout. I know we've got a number of
delegations this morning, and as many of you know, this is likely to be my last
meeting, and most of the faces are now -- I'm slow on the uptake -- but after
six years they're familiar, and virtually all those six years most of the faces
have been very supportive of our efforts, and I can't tell you how much I
appreciate it. It's made our jobs much easier and more effective over the last
six years, so I appreciate it, and I'll miss you guys. Thanks.
MR. JOHNSON: Robert?
MR. NICHOLS: I'd also like to thank all of you who have taken time out of
your day to come and talk about transportation with us. Some of you traveled
short distances. Some of you have traveled long distances across the state, and
we appreciate the effort that you have made to try to explain your needs.
And also since this is probably David's last meeting I'd like to publicly say
how much I have really enjoyed serving with him for the last four years. He's
been very good for Texas. He's been a very back to basics kind of leadership,
but also with a vision. He's been fun to work with and is a real class act, and,
David, I really appreciate what you've done.
(General applause.)
MR. JOHNSON: Well, David, since you broached the subject I'm going to pile
on.
Six years ago right after it was announced that Governor Bush had named me to
the commission, the first phone call I got was from David Laney. The second,
ironically, was from a reporter, but in these past two years David, as that
first phone call showed, has been very helpful and very supportive, and from a
personal note I couldn't have learned as much as I did as quickly as I have if
it weren't for David's being always available in a role -- as a quasi-mentor.
And then I look around at what has happened in these two years not only
within the department but also statewide in the arena of transportation and
transportation planning, and I just marvel at what has happened under his
leadership, and he has been a remarkable leader, and I think it will be
exhibited over time just how effective his service to this commission and also
to this state will be.
But, David, personal note and also from the citizens of this great state,
thank you for a job well done.
MR. LANEY: Thank you, Johnny. I appreciate it very much.
(General applause.)
MR. JOHNSON: We have with us this morning as of Monday named by Governor
Perry as David's successor, Ric Williamson, from Weatherford, Texas, and Ric, if
you would stand up so everybody could get familiar?
(General applause.)
MR. JOHNSON: I remember two years ago when I was introduced, Anne Wynne had
said something about having a bad hair day and then David said, Well, here's
somebody who's never had a bad hair day, so we welcome you and look forward to
working with you.
We have a full slate of business today, including three delegations. Before
we get into our first delegation I notice that Senator Todd Staples has a
meeting in about 15 minutes and has asked to be able to lead off. He's going to
speak on I believe the I-69 route's behalf.
So, Senator, welcome.
SENATOR STAPLES: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate that. Commissioner
Nichols and Commissioner Laney, it's certainly good to see you and
Commissioner-designate Williamson. We thank you for the job that you do for
Texas.
I am here today to speak on behalf of the I-69 alliance that will be making a
presentation to you later this morning. As I think about the tremendously
important job that you do and the balancing act that you have to weigh to
balance the resources to the needs that are faced in Texas, I can only think of
what a great opportunity this is to build a new interstate in our state.
It is a corridor that benefits not just a region of Texas but all of Texas,
and truly benefits as an international project because of the ramifications that
it has. This project, as you know, will be a relief route for other overly
congested routes in Texas, and I think it's just a tremendous opportunity to
show what your vision is for our state and for our country with the
implementation and the progress that can be made on I-69.
I know that there are dedicated citizens that are carrying the load with you.
They're doing their part, and they're here today to make a presentation to you
as well, and I commend them for the cohesiveness that they have shown so many
times. It's difficult to balance the projects that we need, but I've seen just a
tremendous gathering of individuals and resources from throughout Texas to rank
this as a top project, and I thank you for your consideration of it this morning
and thank you for letting me get here so I can lay out a bill.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you very much.
Our first delegation represents the Capital Area Metropolitan Planning
Organization and the Capital Area Transportation Coalition.
TRAVIS AND WILLIAMSON COUNTIES DELEGATION
(Senator Gonzalo Barrientos, Pike Powers, Todd Baxter, Mayor Kirk Watson,
Mayor Robert Stluka, Rep. Ann Kitchen)
MR. JOHNSON: Senator Gonzalo Barrientos will start us off. Welcome, Senator,
and thank you for letting Senator Staples intervene. Commissioner Laney has
pointed out that your last few presentations before the commission have been
extraordinary in entertainment value, and we're expecting no fall off in that
regard.
(General laughter.)
SENATOR BARRIENTOS: May it please the commission, good morning, Chairman
Johnson, Commissioners Laney, Nichols, Wes Heald. Thank you for your time and
courtesy to receive our delegation's request for funding for these three very
important highway projects for Central Texas.
Allow me a few brief words. Brief as there is a session going on, and I will
be receiving -- sitting on the finance committee will be receiving the freshmen
senator who just spoke here a while ago, so I have to get back there and hear
his bill to see how we're going to do.
(General laughter.)
SENATOR BARRIENTOS: I also look forward as a member of the nominations
committee to quickly confirm my colleague -- former colleague from the House,
Ric Williamson. He's going to be a very good addition to this important body.
Now, as the chair of CAMPO, the Capital Area Metropolitan Planning
Organization, I am pleased to tell you that our delegation brings today 50
percent of the funding needed for the requested projects. Now, this is more than
twice what we committed last year. These funds include 80 percent of CAMPO's STP
4(c) funding for the next three years.
Now, I'd like to introduce the elected officials who are here today. If they
would rise, just very briefly we have Representative Ann Kitchen; Commissioner,
Travis County, Todd Baxter; Commissioner Travis County, Karen Sonleitner; Hays
County Commissioner Bill Burnett; our Austin mayor, Kirk Watson; our council
member for the City of Austin, Will Wynn; Mayor Robert Stluka of Round Rock;
board chair of TTA, Pete Winstead; from our chambers Gay Valdez, Cliff Davis,
Mark Hazlewood; and I'm sure I have missed someone, so, Pike Powers, please take
up the slack.
Now the chairman of the Capital Area Transportation Coalition, Mr. Pike
Powers, who will provide the details of our request, and by your leave, I have
to get back to work. Thank you so much.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you, Senator.
(General applause.)
MR. POWERS: Chairman Johnson, Commissioners Nichols and Laney, and Director
Heald, and soon-to-be-Commissioner Ric Williamson, my name is Pike Powers and
I'm the chair of the Capital Area Transportation Coalition, and it's our
pleasure to be back again this year. Before we start I think on behalf of
Central Texas we would like to take our hat off to David Laney.
David, your door was always open. You always listened. You were very
thoughtful and sensitive in everything you said to us over a number of years. I
can't tell you how much we appreciate the time and trouble you took to spend
with us, to encourage us, to nurture us, to push us forward. So can we give you
another round of applause from all of us?
(General applause.)
MR. LANEY: Thank you, Pike. I'll send you a bill.
MR. POWERS: Well, I hope you will.
Can I ask everybody from the Central Texas delegation -- and by the way, this
includes Travis, Hays, and Williamson County -- would everybody stand up
representing those various groups? Thank you very much.
You can see we have a strong delegation, Mr. Chairman and commissioners, here
today to tell you again our story, which we think is a positive, constructive,
going-forward story. We were here last year on these same three projects. We're
back with more money and more vigor and enthusiasm than ever.
We do want to say to you and the staff that we appreciate what you did during
the last year, the access roads on 290 West, which is the highest-ranked project
of our three. I think about 9 million got actually spent on those endeavors,
about 1.88 million as I understand it from local funds, so thanks to you and the
staff for those efforts. We appreciate what we did get done but we've got a lot
more to do, and we're here to tell you that story today.
We believe that Central Texas has its act together. We have a strong
delegation as you can see from the people behind me. We bring money. We bring
enthusiasm. We bring involvement. We bring support for your activities, and we
want to go forward working with you in the future.
I think it's important that we mention the successful local dedicated funds
that we're bringing. Significantly, since the last time we were here we have had
successful local bond elections in both Williamson and Travis and the City of
Austin, and all of these people will be here to talk about it. The voters of
these communities have voted and spoken, and they want the roads. They want the
mobility, and so we're here to tell you that story in spades hopefully today.
We believe we've set new benchmarks for both the local leveraging and
hopefully also with our video, which you'll see in just a minute. We worked hard
to meet your expectations, and we pledge to you that we'll work hard in the
future to keep up our commitments.
Do we have our projects up on the screen? I know you have a paper in front of
you with the Capital Area Mobility that lays out these three projects. You'll
see, unlike last year when Project One was one and Project -- the other two
projects were ranked two and two equally, we have had a reallocation of
priorities and tried to put the second highest priority on 183 South that you'll
hear about in just a minute, so that's a bit of a change from last year. That
paper material is in front of you and we would welcome any questions as we go
along.
Let me turn to our video in the interest of time. We think you'll find this
both informative and entertaining, and we appreciate the opportunity to present
it to you.
(Pause to watch video.)
MR. POWERS: We have a momento to present to Commissioner Nichols. Given the
fact that the legislative battles are going to be fierce and tough and we're
going to need all the help we can get, so here's your helmet to go through the
battle with, Commissioner.
(General applause.)
MR. NICHOLS: That's great.
MR. POWERS: Well, we'll try to be more entertaining next year. We're working
at it.
It's my pleasure now to introduce Travis County Commissioner Todd Baxter to
present the 290 West project and its money.
Todd, please join us.
COMMISSIONER BAXTER: Good morning, Mr. Chairman and commissioners, Mr. Heald,
and Commissioner-designate Mr. Williamson. Thanks for having us. I think the
video is plenty to see. I think there's going to be a secondary market for
half-tracks on 290 now.
I want to thank you for hearing our delegation today. It is an honor to
appear to you -- appear on behalf of Travis County and as a member of the
Capital Area Metropolitan Planning Organization, and we certainly appreciate the
cooperation and assistance of the commission in the past. We are very thankful
to get the frontage roads for 290 last presentation, and we hope to build on
that and move forward. Representative Kitchen is also here in support of the
project, and you'll be hearing from her shortly.
But let me say that these highway improvements are absolutely critical for
improving safety, in fixing the mobility issues, and reducing congestion. The
CAMPO policy advisory committee has committed $32.1 million from STP(4)(c) funds
to help the commission to build these projects. As the graph shows that we have
up there, this is over 80 percent of our total STP(4)(c) funds for the year
2003, 2004, and 2005.
This is truly an unprecedented amount of contribution from our region, and I
think is indicative of just how committed we are to these projects.
In addition to these funds to show our strong support for these projects
Travis County has also committed $2 million towards a US 290 project, and that
was recently approved by the voters and clearly you can see by the voter support
that was another example of how committed our community is to this project.
All three of these projects are important to our region and economy, but the
project that received the highest priority again by CAMPO is the Highway 290
project. Clearly this project's time has come and maybe even be a little bit
past, but certainly I think now is the time to fully fund this project and move
forward with getting it all done.
This project would extend the existing western terminus of the US 290 freeway
from Williamson Creek to west of 1826, as you can see on the map there. With
your help we've made this major east-west thoroughfare a freeway from IH-35 to
just west of Williamson Creek, and that's just short of Motorola.
I know Commissioner Nichols has driven that portion of roadway during rush
hour, and as he knows and as we have expressed before, what you really have is
this beautiful super-freeway situation where it literally slams down to one
lane. It is just causing major congestion in the area, and I think we have a
great opportunity, so really what we need to do is continue this project beyond
the Y in Oak Hill so we can better link the eastern and western parts of Travis
and Hays County for access to jobs and schools, to improve safety, and to reduce
congestion.
The strong community support for CAMPO's number one priority ranking for
Highway 290 West illustrates why we believe the time has come to fully fund this
project.
I'd also like to thank all the residents and businesses of Oak Hill and the
surrounding communities for their patience and persistence. They have all been
wholeheartedly committed to this project, even when it's meant personal
sacrifice and disruption of their lives and businesses, so I'd like to thank
them very much for all their commitment.
I'd like to thank you, Mr. Chairman and the commissioners, on behalf of the
citizens of the state, and thank you for consideration of this very important
project. And, Commissioner Laney, we know that this is your last meeting, and
it's an honor to be here with you at your last meeting, and I know just how much
hard work you've done for the state of Texas and how committed you are to
improving transportation opportunities for the state of Texas, and I'd like to
present you with a helmet as well.
We should have probably given this to you earlier so you could wear it every
once in a while when you needed it, but I know there are times I wish I had this
on 290, so maybe I'll get one for myself too. Thank you.
MR. LANEY: Thanks, Todd.
(General applause.)
MR. POWERS: Well, for emphasis I'd just like to say one more time we do have
a number of people from Hays County here today in support of this particular
project as well who stood earlier.
And now our distinguished mayor and Austinite of the year as of this week,
Mayor Kirk "Wheels" Watson.
(General applause.)
MAYOR WATSON: Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Chairman and commissioners. At the
risk of taking too much time but I feel like I would be remiss if I didn't say a
special thank you to you, Commissioner Laney. As a mayor who came in during your
tenure here and as a mayor who wanted to address the transportation needs of my
community, I always found you to be someone that was ready to help me and to
help educate about different ways we might achieve those results, so I want to
say a special thank you on this day.
MR. LANEY: I appreciate it.
MAYOR WATSON: The other thing I want to say is that we sincerely appreciate
the funding that has occurred for different projects in this area over the past
couple of years and last year as you've already been -- as people have said
already. And you've all heard it before. In fact you heard it in the video, but
I want to emphasize one of the points, and that is that the population of this
area, while it's been growing extraordinarily rapidly in the past couple of
years, it's expected to double -- the population is expected to double in the
next 20 years, and you folks know how bad the congestion is in this area already
because you're many times caught in the very same traffic that we're caught in.
So we have the conditions we have now. You have in addition to that the
growing population over the next 20 years. We need to start paying attention to
where we're going to be 20 years from now.
And one of the points I most would like to stress is the link between what is
a very healthy state economy in the Austin-Round Rock-Central Texas' region's
economy. This region is a vital part of the state of Texas' technology-driven
economy, and it has to be supported with safe and efficient transportation
infrastructure in order to sustain the healthy economy, not just here but in the
state as a whole.
These highways are needed because they make good economic business sense. Let
me give you some statistics. According to the Texas Workforce Commission from
1990 to 1999 Travis County employment has increased by almost 71 percent. Now,
just by way of comparison and just to put it in perspective, Dallas and Harris
County employment levels increased by 30 percent and 23 percent respectively in
that same time period.
The pattern is even more pronounced for the suburban counties, Williamson and
Hays, which as you know surround Travis County. The jobs in those communities
have exploded by over 107 percent and 142 percent. And again, by way of
comparison to Collin and Fort Bend counties, the increase was 102 percent and 87
percent respectively.
The Austin region's dynamic economy is directly linked to the state's
economy, as I've said. Our growth contributes to the state's growth, and as our
workforce is expanded significantly we're feeling the effects on our
transportation system.
My job today is to tell you a few words about US 183. We're particularly
interested in the grade separation of the two remaining stoplights on US 183. As
you all know, in previous years there has been money put forth to take out some
of those stoplights, but we're down to the remaining two stoplights on US 183.
One is at Loyola Lane and the other is at Technicenter Drive.
What this would do is it would complete a nonstop route from Cedar Park to
Austin-Bergstrom International Airport. It would also in my view provide some
relief on Interstate 35. In my opinion this roadway improvement is essential for
us to have any sort of effective multimodal transportation system.
We're cognizant of the funding at TxDOT and the shortage TxDOT has in terms
of money, so I'm pleased to report that the City of Austin is contributing $13.7
million to help with the construction costs, and as you can see from the
graphic, the addition of that to the overall amount of money that is being
brought forward.
I would also like to point out that I'm very proud that the citizens of the
City of Austin back in November passed $150 million bond election to help us, 90
million of which is set aside for help on different projects in terms of right
of way and matching funds. We also recognize that for the foreseeable future
this local financial participation is going to be extremely important, and it's
become a way of life, and so the City of Austin I think stands ready to be a
part of all these projects.
Again, thank you for all you do for the state of Texas. Thank you all for all
that you have done for the capital area, and I have another helmet that I want
to give out, and I'm going to give this to Chairman Johnson, and you may wonder
why we have so many helmets. Here in the City of Austin when the legislature is
in session we buy them in bulk, so --
(General applause.)
MR. POWERS: Thank you, Mayor.
We've been joined in the last few minutes by Travis County Commissioner Ron
Davis. I know he strongly supports this project as well and would like to say
just a word.
COMMISSIONER DAVIS: Good morning. How are you doing this morning?
Listen, commissioners. We really do need some relief. I live in this area.
This particular area is in my precinct, and on Loyola Lane in the morning and
the evening folks coming out of those neighborhoods are just at a standstill
because they have to compete with the traffic that's already on 183 South going
toward the airport.
Technicenter Drive is the same scenario. You have Motorola sitting there. You
have other companies, Fed-Ex, in other areas that are there. In fact, we have a
new subdivision coming in right off Technicenter Drive, which people are going
to need access. They're going to be competing at those traffic lights with the
way the traffic is now flowing down 183 South toward the airport, so I'm really
encouraging you to please go forth, fund us. We need the funding. We are doing
everything we possibly can to ensure that people are made safe.
And again, thank you very much, and let's relieve some of this congestion on
183 South. Thank you very much. Have a good day.
MR. POWERS: Thank you, Commissioner.
It's now my pleasure to present the mayor of Round Rock, Mayor Robert Stluka.
He has no nickname he tells me.
MAYOR STLUKA: Not that I'm willing to share with anyone here.
Chairman Johnson, commissioners, Mr. Heald, thank you very much to give us
this opportunity to make this presentation.
And I must also take this opportunity, Commissioner Laney, to say thank you
to you, thank you to what you've given the state of Texas and what you have
given transportation in the state of Texas. I certainly want to thank you for
your guidance and perseverance. I think it was three sessions ago that Pete
Winstead and I and you walked the halls of the capitol when we were putting the
Texas Turnpike Authority together, legislation that granted that, and I learned
a lot at that time and I appreciate all your perseverance as well during that
time.
Last year we appeared before you with a request to fund the Greenlawn
interchange, and it's an integral part to our overall regional transportation
plan, and as the graphic above you shows, it is an integral part to connecting a
loop around the major intersection of 1325 and 35, not only to serve the Dell
needs of transportation, but that whole area has now become a major development
for us in South Round Rock and the southern end of Williamson County.
Today I am pleased to report that Round Rock has completed its construction
of Greenlawn Boulevard and TxDOT has also completed the ramp onto Greenlawn
Boulevard, and daily we are seeing an increasing number of vehicles using the
street and reducing the usage of the highly congested intersection of 1325 and
I-35.
As I am sure you know, we are in negotiations with TxDOT to determine the
final construction of that particular bridge at that intersection, and we too
have pledged -- and as we have pledged before, we stand ready to fund up to $5
million for that particular interchange.
We're here today truly as a part of a regional effort because it is important
to us in Round Rock, just as it is in the City of Austin, Williamson County, and
Travis County to seeing these projects completed to be able to move our people
around more efficiently, more effectively, and most important, more safely.
So thank you again for your consideration of this presentation today, in
particular in my case the Greenlawn interchange, and we certainly look forward
to a groundbreaking very soon.
And last but not least, Mr. Heald, we have a helmet for you as well. It's my
understanding that Dell issues these pretty much as standard equipment for all
their employees that have to drive through that intersection.
(General applause.)
MR. POWERS: Mr. Chairman, commissioners, it's my pleasure since she ran on
the campaign slogan of putting a Kitchen in the House to introduce to you our
state representative, Ann Kitchen, to say a few words.
(General applause.)
REPRESENTATIVE KITCHEN: Thank you. I want to reiterate what Commissioner Todd
Baxter has said to you already about 290 West because it is so important to us
as the first item in our ranking, and also to my constituents in Oak Hill.
So as you know, US 290 West has been a long-term project for the past 20
years, and as you can see by the turnout and determination of our audience, has
the strong support of people throughout Oak Hill and the counties that feed into
that area.
You know that -- I want to reiterate that this project would benefit people
not only in Travis County but also Hays County to the southwest and Blanco and
Burnet counties to the west. US 290 and SH 71 are used by people from all four
counties to commute to Austin for work and shopping and recreation.
So I know you are aware of this but I just want to reiterate that as the
roadway currently exists we have traffic on a multilane freeway that funnels
down and slams to a halt, dead-ending into a single lane. Not only does this
create severe traffic congestion -- it backs up for a mile and a half -- but
also presents a very dangerous situation as people come up over that hill and
slam to a halt.
Construction of freeway main lanes, frontage roads, and an interchange with
SH 71 would increase the capacity, help alleviate traffic congestion, and
provide safer transportation. Most of the right of way in this freeway section
has already been purchased, and with our region contributing a considerable
portion of the cost, now is the time to complete 290, and I thank you for your
consideration.
(General applause.)
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you.
MR. POWERS: Thank you, Ann.
Do we have any other elected public officials that -- Karen Sonleitner, one
of the Travis County commissioners, is with us.
Did you want to say anything, Karen?
COMMISSIONER SONLEITNER: We appreciate your support.
MR. POWERS: Thank you for being here with us.
I would also like to recognize, Mr. Chairman and commissioners, Tiffiny
Britton is here from Senator Ogden's staff, as well as Joe Morris from Senator
Wentworth's staff. We appreciate their involvement and participation today.
Well, thanks for the time. We're out of time, but thanks for giving us this
time.
David, thanks for the memories in the past. We look forward to working with
you in the future, and Ric, we very much want to work with you in the future and
look forward to telling you the stories in a meaningful way. You've got a good
guy seated right to your left. Just listen and do whatever he tells you to do.
In wrap-up -- and I know we are out of time, Chairman Johnson -- we did want
to put one graphic up before you just to demonstrate how far we've really come,
and that as you will see reflects the fact that we've gotten $32.1 million from
CAMPO, $2 million from Travis County, $13.7 million from the City of Austin, and
$3 million from the City of Round Rock.
We applaud all these local jurisdictions for their attempts to raise almost
$52.8 million for these projects. We've just about made 50 percent. We're at
49.99 percent, so it looks like we're a little bit shy. Is it $29 that we're
shy. We'll have this extra $29 so we can make sure that we get to 50 percent.
Here it is. $29.
(General applause.)
MR. POWERS: Well, you guys were good guys to be in a foxhole with. We want to
win this war and we want to work with you, so thanks for having us today, and if
you've got any questions of any of our delegation, we'd be glad to receive them.
Thank you very much.
MR. JOHNSON: Any questions, Robert or David?
MR. LANEY: My comment is looking at that last graphic you put up from where
you were five years ago, you really have come a long way. My compliments to all
of you for the combined efforts of this part of the state, which is a terrific
regional effort. My hat's off to you.
MR. POWERS: Thanks.
MR. LANEY: But a note to Johnny, be sure and count what's in that --
(General laughter.)
MR. POWERS: Don't worry. We counted it before we put it in there. Thank you
very much. We look forward to being back.
MR. JOHNSON: I think Robert --
MR. NICHOLS: Well, I really had some comments more than questions.
MR. POWERS: Okay.
MR. NICHOLS: We went over it pretty thoroughly yesterday in our meeting, and
I appreciate that. When we met yesterday I tried every way in the world to get a
glimpse of the video. They wouldn't give it to me.
But for those of you from the area who may not know some of the things that
were asked of your elected officials, we had asked over the years that the
community figure out a way to step forward with a vesting into some of these
projects to show a strong support. Honestly, we don't have enough money to build
a lot of these projects, and you have done that. You have stepped very -- a big
step forward in putting up the money including the last $29, but it is a huge
step for the area, and I know it's taken a lot of work to do that.
We also ask you to, as a region, try to establish priorities. There are so
many projects that need to be built in this area that trying to figure out which
ones are the most important is a very difficult thing for your communities to
sit down and do that, and if you can't sit down and do it yourself you can
imagine the problem we would have. And they have done that, so we asked you to
do that, you did that.
We also asked you to try to, as you did this process, to end up with a
communitywide support of the action you have taken, and you have done that. So
you have done absolutely everything that we have asked you to do. My hat's off
to you. My compliment to your leadership and to the community. I wish I'd had
this helmet two days ago at the legislature, but I appreciate it now.
Thank you.
(General applause.)
MR. JOHNSON: My observations are much along that same line. I think that
you're a prime example of what can be done by working together. So often we see
areas that have not organized and do not work together, and they have much more
difficulty in getting things done, and my -- I salute you. I would take off this
hat, but it's too heavy.
It's a prime example of what can be done, and you ought to be congratulated.
Secondly, as Robert mentioned, you brought considerable leverage to these
projects, and it's almost to the point that it's a deal that we can't refuse.
Hopefully we can't -- better go back and tell them I tried.
(General applause.)
MR. LANEY: He said almost to the point.
MR. JOHNSON: We do have some controlling factors, obviously, and those are
our budgetary numbers, but I think you have done, as Robert has said, as much as
possibly could be asked of you, and hopefully we can do our part also.
Thirdly, I'm a little bit saddened to think that if you get all of this, the
next video might not be able to compare with entertainment value of this one,
but as Robert also said I know there are many projects that remain undone and
unfunded, and so I'm confident we'll see and hear from you more, but I do want
to congratulate you on the presentation.
Before we take a brief recess I've been advised there's several members of
the House of Representatives here who would like to come forward and be heard.
They have very tight and busy schedules, and we're grateful that they are here.
And I'm going to start, ladies first, with Representative Beverly Woolley. Then
Gary Elkins and William Callegari are all going to speak on Interstate 10, and
then Jim McReynolds on I-69.
So Representative Woolley?
REPRESENTATIVE WOOLLEY: Good morning, Chairman Johnson, my friend and
constituent; Commissioner Nichols, my campaign buddy from California when we
were working for our good governor; and Commissioner Laney.
I too want to thank you for your service. Texas is really fortunate to have
the caliber of people like you three men here willing to serve the state, and we
are all deeply grateful for your service.
And to my former colleague in the House, welcome, congratulations, I look
forward to working with you.
I am here on behalf of the West Houston Association and their plea to move
the project for I-10 up to priority 1 status. I have to drive this personally,
and I drew the black bean this session. I have an eight o'clock Monday morning
committee meeting, so I left home at about ten minutes after 5:00 a.m. last
week, and I was shocked at the number -- at the amount of traffic at that point
of the morning both ways. It's amazing.
I know that it is crowded and it's a parking lot 11 hours a day. It's 340
percent over capacity, and we need help desperately. I know it's a big project.
We would like to see it start by 2003 and be completed by 2009, if I've got the
dates correct.
Whatever we can do to help on that, I'm willing to try. I wish we could
borrow Travis County's video and show it again. It was wonderful. I think -- we
don't have the video but we've got the same problems, and they are extremely
acute. So we plead with you, we ask for your help, and let us know what we can
do, but I do hope you take this into every consideration.
Thank you.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you, Representative.
Representative Elkins.
REPRESENTATIVE ELKINS: Thank you. Thank you, Chairman Johnson and
commissioners.
I'm going to say ditto to what Beverly said, but just add a couple of points.
One is, as you are all aware, we have a tremendous air quality issue in Houston,
and part of the air quality issue is that the cars are all parked on I-10, and
so we need help desperately, and we are going to urge you to make I-10 a
priority 1 this session, and we don't want to wait until 2003 to start. We want
to start next week if possible.
We were all amused at the movie presentation, and during the movie
presentation I saw Winston Churchill give his speech about victory at all costs,
which reminded me about a famous speech that he gave at a college graduation,
which went simply like this. And if I remember right no graduate that year
forgot the speech.
It was simply, Never give up, never give up, never, never, never give up. And
Chairman and commissioners, from the West Houston delegation of Harris County we
are never, never, never going to give up until I-10 is a priority 1 and
completed.
Thank you very much.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you.
Representative Callegari, welcome.
REPRESENTATIVE CALLEGARI: Thank you very much. I appreciate the opportunity
to talk to you this morning.
My district is 130 and it consists of the area basically from the -- it
includes I-10 from Eldridge to the Fort Bend County line at Katy. Quite often
the question that's asked me more often than anything else is what can you do to
fix I-10? Every time I meet a constituent it seems like somebody wants to know
about that.
I-10 as you know is a mess. It's a real problem. I live in Katy and every
time I go downtown or to the Galleria or anywhere east of Katy it takes
considerably longer than it used to.
I can remember a few years ago when I could get anywhere close to downtown in
45 minutes. Now it takes a minimum of an hour and a half and sometimes two hours
if I'm in peak traffic time. And I-10 is a problem not only during the week but
on the weekends as well.
The biggest problem that I see with I-10, other than the obvious advantages
that we would have if we -- as we get it fixed of reducing air pollution and
moving the traffic is we -- as I travel around the country and around the state
I hear a lot of Houston bashing, and while that's bad for Houston it's bad for
the entire state, because as people look at relocating businesses or look at
moving offices into the Houston area if they keep hearing how bad the traffic
is -- and they don't distinguish between Houston and Dallas and Austin or
anything else. They just hear that traffic in Texas is bad -- it translates to a
situation I think hurts our economic development.
I urge you very strongly to put I-10 into priority 1, let us get the funding,
let us move on. It's going to be tough as construction's going on. The longer we
wait the harder it is. If we don't start moving dirt and making things happen
we're going to have a problem that's going to be almost insurmountable. We need
your help. Please help us.
Thank you.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you, Representative.
Representative McReynolds, the professor from East Texas. Welcome.
REPRESENTATIVE McREYNOLDS: It's so nice to be in front of you today, and in a
little while you'll be having a hearing on the I-69 corridor, and I thank you
for accommodating my time and it's a joy to be with you.
I know that building 1,100 miles of an interstate corridor traversing 36
counties is no little project. By the same token I know that you guys have been
bold in this building named after Billy Greer, and you know what a challenge is,
and I thank you for standing up to that challenge.
I'd like to thank you for the jump-start that you've given to the program
already by directing monies to commence our environmental impact studies and our
routing studies along this corridor. I'm particularly pleased and possessive of
the fact that my region housed over in Angelina County has really gotten out
ahead on this project, and I'd also like to say thank you very much for being
sensitive to assist with the mobility in the existing corridor.
I had my staff pull up yesterday through this new project management database
just to see what you're doing in that corridor already, and it's awesome. And I
read somewhere that there's already in terms of normal planning 122 projects
that we have scheduled in this I-69 corridor.
I want to thank you and I want to thank our friends with the Alliance for
I-69 Texas in keeping us in Texas in tandem with Washington. They're going to go
next week I believe or week after next, and we're going to try our best to see
U.S. drive dollars into this project as well.
Well again, thank you for this project that maybe we'll see in our lifetime
and certainly will be wonderful for our children and children yet unborn. Thank
you so much for letting me testify.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you, Representative.
We will take a short recess to let those who would like to get back to
commerce and industry to do so, and any others who want to enter may do so. The
operative word is short, so we stand in recess.
(Whereupon, a short recess was taken.)
MR. JOHNSON: Our second delegation this morning comes to us from the Houston
area. I believe Roger Hord with the West Houston Association, will begin the
presentation.
HARRIS COUNTY DELEGATION
(Rep. Gary Elkins, Rep. William A. Callegari, Roger Hord, Lynn Grafing,
Senator Jon Lindsay, Wallace Henley)
MR. JOHNSON: Roger, welcome.
MR. HORD: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Commissioner and members of the
commission.
Mr. Heald, thank you very much for receiving our delegation. We have a
very -- what we hope to be quick and short and punchy enough presentation that
we'll get in and out real quick.
I want to introduce two people who are going to be making our main
presentation, then we'll have some representatives of -- a representative from
John Culberson's office and Talmadge Heflin's office.
MR. JOHNSON: Roger, could I interrupt you?
MR. HORD: Yes.
MR. JOHNSON: I have made an egregious error. There are two representatives
that have compressed schedules and need to --
MR. HORD: Absolutely.
MR. JOHNSON: -- speak. Representative Hawley and Representative Morrison, if
I haven't run you off by not recognizing you, would you please come forward? And
I apologize. I know your time is critical and you need to return to the other
side of the street, and so welcome whoever wants to go first.
Representative Hawley?
REPRESENTATIVE HAWLEY: For the record, I'm Judy Hawley. Thank you. If you
hold us here a long time we won't go do damage over there, so it may be in your
best interest.
MR. JOHNSON: We'll remember that.
REPRESENTATIVE HAWLEY: There you go.
I would just like to speak on the I-69 project and just add my voice of total
support for that. I just attended a Mexican-American caucus meeting before
coming over here, and one of the things they were talking about was sort of a
Marshall Plan for the border, and a very integral part of that is having these
international gateways, and I lend my full support to that.
As you know, the projected I-69 corridor goes through eleven senatorial
districts, 48 House districts. You're going to have widespread support from
obviously the Texas delegation. Thirty-four counties, huge economic impact, and
I just urge you to do -- implore you to do whatever you can to help us draw down
those federal funds to make it a reality, and to know that you have a group here
working, which has been in place for some seven years, working to make this
dream a reality.
So just adding my support to that. A tremendous expense for the state of
Texas but as we lobby for those federal funds, those billions of dollars we'll
need to make that happen, know that we're with you. We'll work with you. We will
do whatever we have to from the Texas legislative standpoint to help draw down
those funds and to expedite this project.
So thank you very much for letting us appear before you today, and I'll turn
this over to my wonderful colleague, Geanie Morrison.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you.
REPRESENTATIVE MORRISON: Good morning. Good to see you this morning.
As Judy said, I-69 will be very vital to continued economic development of
not only my district, District 30, but South Texas as a whole. The
infrastructure in our area has developed in a manner that can both stimulate and
maintain a growing economy in our area. Due to the accessibility of four of the
five major metropolitan areas, my district, District 30, which includes
Victoria, DeWitt, Goliad, and Lavaca counties has the distinct honor already of
being called the crossroads of Texas.
In addition, our close proximity to the ports and to the plants make District
30 and this area a very unique environment capable of accommodating a wide
variety of business and industry. And of course I'm here in support of I-69 and
as you know, my county judge, Helen Walker, is helping to lead the charge, and I
certainly support her and all that she's doing and encourage you -- as Judy said
we are here to help make this a reality, and anything that we can do within the
legislative process, we're here to offer our support and our help to make that a
reality.
Thank you so much for having us.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you, Representative.
Roger, before you were so rudely interrupted by the chair -- please continue,
and I apologize.
MR. HORD: No problem at all.
What I was going to say is this presentation we're going to make updates on
one we gave to the commission in April 1999. I want to first introduce Rose
Hernandez, who's representing County Judge Robert Eckels, and then following
Rose will be Lynn Grafing, the chairman of the West Houston Association.
MS. HERNANDEZ: Good morning, commissioners. I'm deeply honored to be here
before you representing -- actually in two capacities. I'm here on behalf of
Judge Eckels representing the alliance of I-69 and the I-10 group as well.
First of all, I'd like to if I may read this letter on behalf of Judge Eckels
concerning the Katy Freeway.
"Commissioners, thank you for the opportunity to reaffirm the
Houston-Galveston region's support of the efforts to expedite reconstruction and
improvements of Interstate 10 West, the Katy Freeway. I offer the following
remarks as chairman of the Transportation Policy Council, the metropolitan
planning organization for the eight-county Houston-Galveston region and as
county judge for its largest county, Harris County.
"Interstate 10 West, known as the Katy Freeway, accommodates more vehicles
per lane per day than any comparable facility in the state. Moreover, its
pavement and structures have long exceeded normal designed life. Routine
maintenance alone cannot adequately ensure serviceable pavements. The deployment
of transportation management measures such as HOV lanes have improved corridor
mobility but reduced lane width and all but eliminated inside and outside
shoulders.
"Increasing development pressures to the west of Houston and the continued
rapid growth of goods movement in this international trade corridor produce the
region's most extended periods of bidirectional traffic congestion. Intensive
traffic use and reduced design standards coupled with inadequate corridor
drainage leave the facilities susceptible to major traffic bottlenecks as a
consequence of minor incidents or inclement weather.
"Therefore, the reconstruction and improvement of this corridor is of highest
regional and state priority.
"In 1999 the Transportation Policy Council took the unprecedented step of
pledging $256 million in federal funding and surface transportation funds and
congestion mitigation air quality funds to reconstruction and improvement of the
Katy Freeway. I urge the commission to complete its commitment to implementation
of these improvements as soon as possible.
"Thank you for your continued partnership in improving mobility, safety, and
environmental quality in the Houston-Galveston region. Sincerely, Robert Eckels,
chairman of the Transportation Policy Council."
And in the judge's behalf we just want to continue your support and thank
Chairman Laney for all he's done in the past. Thank you, gentlemen.
MR. GRAFING: Thank you, Commissioner Johnson, and fellow commissioners for
the opportunity to be here this morning.
My name is Lynn Grafing and I'm the board chair for the West Houston
Association. We're a business group who, among other things, promotes
infrastructure improvements in the West Houston area, and in the 21 years of our
organization's existence we think this may be the most important issue that
we've addressed, and that is the reconstruction of the Katy Freeway.
Roger mentioned also that we specifically would like to ask this morning for
priority 1 status on this project, and I'll get into that a little bit more in a
moment.
The Katy Freeway has a reputation around Houston as being one of the most
dangerous and congested freeways in Texas, and today we want to focus on three
major areas. One, the need for quick action, the current status of the project,
and our delegation's request to you, which I alluded to just previously.
The need for reconstruction is obvious to most of the folks who drive the
Katy Freeway daily, truck drivers, commuters, and others. They're concerned that
the construction has been delayed and that the construction period is longer
than it should be. We want to focus on about 21 miles of the Katy Freeway, from
Loop 610 out to the Fort Bend County line.
This is extremely congested. As you can see, vehicles per day are about 260
percent above capacity on that section, and on an individual lane about 340
percent over capacity -- beyond congestion capacity. Much of the time this
section operates at level of service E or worse in terms of congestion.
Congestion occurs eleven hours per day over the entire length of this section in
both directions during the weekday and on weekends, and the cost of this delay
due to congestion has been calculated at about 100 million.
The Katy Freeway also operates at the margins of safety because of high
traffic volumes and the inability of the design to accommodate that volume.
It's also a major interstate for commerce. Movement of goods is limited by
the severe local congestion in the West Houston area.
Let me talk about the current status for just a moment. The people who work
and do business in Houston are concerned about the delay in the start of the
project and the length in the construction schedule, and their concern is that
there is going to be impact on economic development and quality of life in West
Houston.
We have very strong local commitment, as you can see, to this project. To
date about $317 million have been pledged. That's about 26 percent of the
funding for the project. When you add the other sources that have been
committed, we have about 42 percent of the funding we believe committed for this
project.
But we are asking for action by the commission now to designate this as a
priority project. We're concerned about the delays, the high cost, the limited
cash flow that's available for projects like this, and competition from other
projects in addition to TxDOT's piecemeal development of these large projects
can all contribute to those delays.
The local TxDOT office has identified an aggressive schedule for completion
of this project, which we endorse and many other business groups in Houston. It
calls for an initial letting of two major portions of the project in 2003,
primarily based on that local funding that I mentioned, and bidding the
remaining sections by 2006. By doing so the project could be completed before
the 2010 estimate.
We also are concerned that using the traditional methods for development of
this project construction could likely extend to 12 to 15 years based on
experience with similar projects in the Houston area. Just a four-year delay in
this project could result in additional costs of up to $65 million. Travel time
cost to the public could amount to 85 million, cost of acquiring right of way
could increase about 6 percent per year.
In summary, the local community recognizes this is an important project and
have committed an unprecedented level of support. We're concerned that delayed
construction and a protracted construction schedule would impact the economic
development, and we would like to respectfully request, as was done by Mayor Lee
Brown and County Judge Robert Eckels in 1999 that the commission move this
entire project to priority 1 status.
We'd also like to respectfully request that you urge TxDOT to commit to the
aggressive schedule mentioned earlier, and in return you can count on us to
continue to work at all levels to look for innovative approaches to dealing with
the funding gap that we still have in place and working cooperatively to
complete this project.
Thank you very much for the opportunity. We want to recognize the hard work
that you do, the difficult priorities that you have to manage, and the limited
funds to get these projects done, but we assure you we're going to do our part.
Thank you.
MR. HORD: We have been joined by Senator Lindsay, whose district is bisected
by this project.
Senator.
MR. JOHNSON: Senator, welcome.
SENATOR LINDSAY: Thank you, and thank you, Roger.
And, David, is this going to be the last time we see you at this table?
MR. LANEY: Yes.
SENATOR LINDSAY: Well, thank you for serving the time that you did. It's been
great.
MR. LANEY: Thank you for all the support. Appreciate it.
SENATOR LINDSAY: And it's all been said, and I'm not going to say it over
again, but needless to say we in the community believe this is the most
important project we have in our neighborhood, and I think you believe that as
well, having talked to you all about it from time to time.
I wanted to reassure you that you have my support, and you will continue
having my support in trying to get adequate funds to do what needs to be done.
I'm even going to introduce some controversial things that says you guys get
more money at the expense of additional taxes, which is not popular among some
of my colleagues, but it needs to be put on the table and discussed, and I'm
willing to do that. Might call for a referendum to prove that there is community
support out there for your efforts to build more and better roads in the state
of Texas.
And there's a lot of projects I know that need to be done. I hear about them
all the time. We've got more than one in my district and my area. Certainly I am
most interested in this project, but I'm also interested in the Grand Parkway,
would like to see Interstate -- I-69 get to the point where we know where it's
going through our area, because I think it will be a great benefit.
And I understand all the problems associated with it, but I want you to know
that I do support it, and I support these people as well. I want them to know
that I'm here. I'm out of breath getting over here. I've got to run back. But
thanks again for your time, and thanks again for your service.
MR. LANEY: Senator, I appreciate the support. Thank you very much.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you, Senator.
MR. HORD: I have several letters from the legislators that I will leave. I
won't bother to read them now, but one's from Representative Charlie Howard and
the other one's from Senator Buster Brown.
Mr. Henley, would you like to come to the podium? This is -- Wallace Henley
represents John Culberson.
MR. HENLEY: Thank you, Mr. Hord, and Chairman Johnson, commissioners, thank
you for the opportunity to speak today on behalf of United States Representative
John Culberson, for whom I have the privilege of serving as district director.
I express very much his appreciation for the thought and consideration that
you've already given to this project, and for the opportunity you extend us to
interact on this very crucial issue. We're cognizant -- the congressman is
cognizant of the partnership that will be required to accomplish this huge
project and your very important role in it, and I have today a letter from the
congressman that with your permission I would like to read and then distribute a
copy to each member of the commission.
"Dear commissioners: On behalf of the 700,000-plus citizens in Congressional
District 7, I want to request once again that the commissioners take whatever
action is necessary to accelerate the reconstruction of Interstate 10, the Katy
Freeway, in Harris County.
"Progress on the freeway appears to have fallen behind schedule. Deadlines
have been missed, and it is very difficult to get precise information on
progress and impossible to get a timetable on which taxpayers can rely on the
agencies to keep. I know you and all the commissioners share my concern for
improving mobility for our citizens.
"Traffic congestion is intolerable on the Katy Freeway. The constant freeway
gridlock causes immeasurable damage to Houston's economic vitality, subtracts an
untold number of irreplaceable hours from family and work time of west Houston
residents, and threatens the health and safety of citizens who need to reach a
hospital but cannot because of a traffic jam.
"On November 10, 2000, when Chairman Johnny Johnson and I met to discuss this
project, I was heartened by his understanding of the situation and his
concurring belief that the Katy Freeway expansion should have a Texas
Transportation Commission top priority status.
"Since that meeting I have been working nonstop at the federal level to
acquire new additional federal funding for the Katy Freeway expansion. I have
met with Senator Phil Gramm, Congressman Tom DeLay, and House Transportation
Committee Chairman Don Young as well as numerous members of those committees and
the Appropriations Committee. All have pledged their support for the project and
offered their assistance in securing funds.
"However, each time I explain the critical need for funds the first question
I am asked is, Does the Texas Transportation Commission consider this project a
priority? I cannot answer that question properly because I have no tangible
proof that I-10 is a top priority of the commission.
"I therefore urge the commission to move the entire Katy Freeway expansion
project to a priority 1 status, issue a news release to that effect, and take
whatever other action is necessary to accelerate its completion. Every day that
I represent District 7 in Congress, I will take action in some form to
accelerate the completion of I-10. I will not rest until I have done everything
in my power to open this nightmarish freeway as fast as humanly possible.
"This project is my highest legislative priority, and I look forward to
working with you to help remove every impediment to its rapid completion.
Sincerely yours, John Culberson."
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, commissioners.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you.
MR. HORD: Next we have a representative from Representative Talmadge Heflin's
office.
MR. WELCH: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members, Commissioner Heald. For the
record I'm Matt Welch and I'm with Representative Talmadge Heflin's office.
Mr. Heflin is not submitting any written comments today because he's been too
busy with you all week, but we just wanted to state for the record our interest
in this project, and also the I-69 alliance. He is supportive of that.
This -- the Katy Freeway expansion is one we feel is a critical need at this
time, and there's probably nothing I can tell you that you don't already know or
haven't heard, but just know of our support.
Thank you very much for the opportunity to address you this morning.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you.
MR. HORD: By my watch we're giving you back five minutes. Thank you for your
attention. This is a critical project for us.
MR. JOHNSON: That's obviously an impressive group of presenters, and I think
I speak for the commission that obviously I-10, as I deal with it every day
sometimes more than once, is known to all of us in terms of its importance not
only to the Houston community but also the entire state as a trade route and as
a major corridor, and problems are well known, and I think you can rest assured
that it's going to get our highest attention.
MR. HORD: Thank you.
MR. JOHNSON: Any other observations? David.
MR. LANEY: Johnny may be a little reluctant to say it, being from Houston.
I'm from the North Texas area, Roger, as you know, and we have a number of very
important projects, but nothing in the state is as important from a project
standpoint in my judgment as the Katy Freeway and I-10 West. Nothing is.
We have economic -- financial constraints, as you know, and we have
overhanging this entire thing as you know also the air quality nonattainment
issue that could take the fate of this project totally out of our hands and out
of our control. We also have legislation that Johnny and Robert are trying their
best to shepherd through effectively that would enhance our ability to finance
projects like this with bonds.
I don't know the fate of that. So we've got a number of moving parts, some of
which work directly against us, and some of which could work very effectively in
favor of our effectively moving this thing forward on a much more accelerated
basis than usual.
But if there is any doubt about the commission's perspective on this project
I think hearing the three of us today should dispel any concerns that this is at
least among if not the most important projects in the state to move forward, but
it's got enormous challenges in front of it, and we need help.
MR. NICHOLS: Just to make sure you did hear all three of us, I'm going to
reaffirm basically what they both said. It is one of the highest priority
projects in the state from our vantage point, and we're going to do absolutely
everything we can to see that it does become a reality at some point.
MR. HORD: We appreciate it very much, and on behalf of the West Houston
Association and others in the Houston area we commit to doing whatever we can to
make this a project that you really can't say no to, so -- and we want to thank
you for your help in the past.
And, David, good luck. Thank you.
MR. LANEY: Thank you, Roger. I appreciate the support.
MR. JOHNSON: As all of our presenting delegations are well aware, we do not
make decisions on the spot relative to the requests that the delegations make,
but they in each case present a very good picture of what's going on in
communities across the state, and they go a long way to clarifying in our minds
just how important meeting those challenges are.
We're going to take a very slight, short recess so the West Houston people
can vacate, and we'll stand in recess for just a brief period of time.
(Whereupon, a short recess was taken.)
MR. JOHNSON: Before we get to our third delegation I would like to mention
the backbone of TxDOT is contained in its 25 district engineers, and I see, I
believe, at least two of them here have come great distances to be with I
presume their delegations: Billy Parks from Corpus Christi and Gary Trietsch
from our Houston district are here, and I cannot tell you how good a job these
gentlemen do.
I believe John Kelly from San Antonio is here, and on behalf of the
commission, congratulations and thanks for all the work you do for your
district, but it all adds up to great work for this state.
Our third delegation is the Alliance for I-69 Texas, and I would like to
welcome Victoria County Judge Helen Walker.
VARIOUS COUNTIES DELEGATION
(Judge Helen Walker, Judge John Thompson, Mayor Louis Bronaugh)
JUDGE WALKER: Thank you, Chairman Johnson, and members of the commission.
We're appreciative of the opportunity to be here today to discuss the status and
path forward for the development of Texas' newest interstate, I-69.
I'm Helen Walker, the county judge of Victoria County. I'm here today as
chairman of the Alliance for I-69 Texas. This is a coalition of public and
private sector leaders from more than 34 counties from east, northeast to
through South Texas.
The group was established in 1993 with the single goal of building I-69 to
its completion. We have held this coalition together for more than seven years,
which is perhaps an unusual feat for that many counties, multiple cities, many
chambers of commerces, economic development corporations, as well as private
sector members.
As Representative Hawley told you earlier this morning, the proposed route
passes through eleven state senatorial districts and 48 House districts. We
didn't ask them all to be here today. You have heard from several of them and
we're appreciative of those efforts.
Many of the dedicated project proponents are here with me today to
demonstrate their continued support for the project, and at this time I'd like
to ask them to stand and be recognized.
(Pause.)
JUDGE WALKER: As evidenced by this group here today we've built tremendous
grass-roots support for the project, which will spur economic growth and
facilitate both international and interregional trade. This support and local
involvement will be critical as the alliance works with you and other state
leaders to secure additional funding for I-69.
Our presentation today is designed to provide an update to you of the
progress of I-69 and the alliance's plan to further advance the project at both
state and federal levels. I'd like to take a few minutes to share with you the
recent I-69 accomplishments.
The creation of the National Corridor of Planning and Development and the
Coordinated Border Infrastructure Program in 1998 was a major milestone for the
project. It established a dedicated federal funding source for corridors like
I-69. We're pleased that through these federal programs and direct
appropriations Texas has received more than $25 million in federal funding for
projects along the corridor since 1999.
Furthermore, we appreciate that last year TxDOT authorized $19.2 million for
the environmental studies of the route through Texas. The blending of state and
federal funding has enabled the state to commence the environmental impact and
routing study along the corridor in Texas. However, we clearly need to increase
funding for the project in order to build it to completion.
Another major milestone achieved has been the selection of Parsons
Brinckerhoff as the general engineering consultant, and eleven other engineering
firms to conduct the environmental and routing studies on each of the 13
sections of independent utility in Texas. Now the detailed studies can commence
on each segment of I-69 in Texas.
Finally, with the assistance of the firm of Shiner Moseley and Associates,
Incorporated, the alliance has developed a project management database that
enables us to track all projects along the corridor in Texas. We believe that
this can be an invaluable tool not only for members of the alliance to track
individual projects in their regions, but hopefully be of value to the
consulting engineers conducting environmental and routing studies as well as to
you and your staff.
I'd like to call on Judge John Thompson to preview the project plans and
state initiatives.
JUDGE THOMPSON: Good morning, Mr. Chairman and commissioners. I am John
Thompson, the county judge in Polk County, and I serve the alliance as a
secretary-treasurer.
As Judge Walker mentioned, the alliance has developed a comprehensive
corridor project database which is accessible through our alliance's website at
www.I69texas.org. While we're aware that these projects may or may not fall on
the ultimate alignment of I-69 they do represent activity under way to improve
the mobility in the corridor, and we do realize that the environmental clearance
process will determine the preferred alignment of I-69.
The database was developed based upon the UTP approved by the commission in
September in the subsequent meetings with TxDOT officials in eight districts
along the corridor. The database is map driven and provides project detail
sheets on 122 projects in the I-69 corridor that are currently in the
department's normal planning and development process. These projects span
approximately 1,100 miles and cover some 36 counties in Texas.
Without a doubt, the size and therefore the cost of constructing I-69
presents a significant challenge. The results from the project database
demonstrates TxDOT's commitment to improving the mobility on many of the
existing routes in the corridor, and I'd like to take just a few moments to walk
you through a sample of the database for which we are very pleased.
First, from the state map you go and select the district you're interested
in. For example, we'll click on the Lufkin District and bring you to that map.
From that you'll see the counties which lie within that district, and for
today's demonstration we're going to pick Angelina County, where our previous
chairman, Mayor Louis Bronaugh, and the City of Lufkin are from.
Each county map consists of a highway and projects along the I-69 corridor,
and there are three different symbols used to indicate the level of authority,
and the fourth being the ones that are under construction, and if you click on
one of those projects in a county you see a project detail sheet.
As you can see, there's a tremendous amount of important information
available about the project. For instance you see the estimated cost, the local
cost, the status as far as the environment design and right of way acquisition.
There's also a description of the action needed and a list of potential funding
sources. This database will enable the alliance to work with you, TxDOT staff,
and local officials to advance projects listed in the database.
More importantly, we will use this database to demonstrate to Congress the
significant level of commitment by the state and local jurisdictions to improve
the mobility in the corridor. The ultimate mobility project itself will be I-69
once we've completed the proper environmental process to locate the alignment
and begin the development process. Demonstrating this support will be critical
to the effort to secure additional federal funding for the entire project during
the reauthorization of TEA 21 in 2003.
Now, to summarize the results of the project database, TxDOT has 122 projects
in the corridor presently totaling $2.2 billion. While we recognize again that
the results of the ongoing environmental and route studies will determine the
specific location of I-69, we consider that the development of these 122
projects contributes to the mobility improvements in the corridor.
Now, Congress has designated I-69 in Texas as a combination of US 59 from
Texarkana to Laredo, the stretch from Nacogdoches over towards Shreveport, plus
US 77 and 281 to the Rio Grande Valley. As such, the alliance supports all work
that TxDOT is doing along these routes to meet the demands placed on the
corridor from trade as well as regional and interregional transport of people
and goods.
While clear progress is being made on I-69 today, significant additional
funding is necessary to expedite the completion. The alliance is addressing that
issue at both the state and the federal level. The alliance is also actively
supporting statewide legislative initiatives to increase overall state funding
for transportation. We recognize that we must increase the size of the funding
pot in order to increase the share to I-69 and other critical projects
throughout the state.
The major state funding initiatives include reallocating road and highway
user fees for road and highway improvements, continuing the process of reducing
the diversion of funds from State Highway Fund Six, and permitting innovative
financing, construction, and right of way acquisition methods.
The alliance is also committed to working with the GEC and the consulting
engineers to facilitate the timely completion of the environmental and route
studies. We hope the alliance can be a resource to you and your engineering
consultants.
In addition, the alliance will continue to increase grass-roots support for
the development of I-69, which will establish the critical trade links across
North America, will spur economic development in Texas, and will facilitate
intergovernmental traffic movement.
Yesterday members of the I-69 delegation that you see here today participated
in I-69 Day at the capitol, and hopefully some of you were able to make the
Taste of I-69 last night, which was a real treat. The day-long event was
designed to show the alliance's support for increased transportation funding and
to reiterate to our state officials the importance of completing I-69. We feel
that Texas cannot afford to miss the opportunities that I-69 will generate.
The alliance, as we've talked about earlier, has recently launched a website
to house the project management database and to disseminate information about
I-69 to all interested parties. We believe that our website can be a powerful
tool in the effort to build grass-roots support and to keep elected officials
apprised of the project's status. We hope that you will have some time to visit
our site again at www.I69texas.org.
At this time it is indeed my privilege and pleasure to introduce a friend and
fellow alliance board member, The Honorable Mayor Louis Bronaugh of the City of
Lufkin, and we like to refer to Mayor Bronaugh or Louis as the father of I-69 in
Texas, and he's going to talk to you a little bit about our federal initiatives.
Mayor Bronaugh.
MAYOR BRONAUGH: Thank you, son.
(General laughter.)
MAYOR BRONAUGH: I meet the age requirements of that father thing.
Good morning, gentlemen. I want to say that the months ahead present a
tremendous opportunity for I-69 as the new administration establishes its
priorities related to transportation. We are fortunate to have a president who
has his firsthand knowledge about the burden placed on the border states'
infrastructure by international commerce.
We look forward to working with President Bush and officials of the US
Department of Transportation. This year Congress and the administration will
begin the groundwork for the reauthorization of TEA 21. We share the common goal
with the commission to significantly increase funding for I-69 by increasing
funds available through the corridors and borders program, limiting the
corridors that can compete for these funds or perhaps establishing a new more
narrowly defined program.
Successfully securing additional funding in the authorization of TEA 21 is
critical for the future development of I-69 and would be a major focus of the
alliance efforts in 2001. The alliance will seek opportunities to participate in
sessions organized by DOT and Congress to formulate priorities for the
reauthorization.
The alliance will continue to support appropriations for I-69 development if
Congress opts to earmark funding for particular projects. Based on our efforts
to date in Washington we know that working with regions of similar interest is
critical to advancing initiatives in Washington. The alliance will continue to
work cooperatively with the Midcontinent Coalition, the nation's I-69 alliance,
to demonstrate the national support for I-69 and to develop a common agenda for
reauthorization.
Please use the alliance as resources as you begin the public involvement
portion of the environmental process. We welcome the opportunity to help
disseminate information about the progress being made on the project. To this
end the alliance would like to request the commission organize a corridor
workgroup consisting of leaders along the I-35 and I-69, the state's most
established trade corridors, to identify a common agenda to advance during the
reauthorization of TEA 21.
The intent of this effort would be a core group to develop possible
legislative and congressional issues to present to the other interested parties
in the state and perhaps throughout the nation.
We appreciate the opportunity to be here today and we look forward to
continue to work closely with members of the commission and the TxDOT staff.
Thank you very much, and I'll return six minutes of the time. Thank you very
much.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
JUDGE WALKER: Maybe only five. I'd like to add our appreciation for our
ability to be before you today to thank former Chairman Laney for his service to
the commission.
I visited with him briefly about one of the first times I was here was to
talk about courthouse funding, and I told him that we -- Victoria County was
able to do our courthouse with private funding and we will -- it has been
completely restored for use as court space, and including my office, which will
be in the new-old building in the same place that I started to work for Victoria
County some 40 years ago.
But the Texas Transportation Commission over the years has done many, many
things for the betterment of the state of Texas, and we appreciate the
opportunity to work with you. We hope that you will use the Alliance for I-69
Texas as a resource in the future.
Thank you, and I'd like to thank all the people who are here with us today.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you, Judge.
Any questions, comments, observations, Robert?
MR. NICHOLS: Comments. I'd like to thank all of you for coming to last's
night gathering, because a lot of you have come a long way, and it's really
interesting to see a coalition of such magnitude of geography in this state,
which shows the significance the corridor will develop over the years.
I think you already know that the department is very supportive of the
corridor and is putting energy into developing the environmental steps and so on
to get those pieces locked down to exactly where they're going to be. And also
we all know there is no interstate construction money from the federal
government at this time, but we think there's a very good chance there can be,
and with the efforts that you are putting together -- and I encourage your
continued work -- to work not only in Texas but at the federal level to help
Texas secure the funding for the interstate construction on -- it will be TEA 22
or whatever they're going to call it next time -- in roughly three years.
But my hat's off to you, and thanks for all that you're doing.
MR. JOHNSON: David.
MR. LANEY: I really have nothing to add other than this is a major challenge,
but an enormous opportunity for Texas, and one way or the other I think you're
going to find the support from the department and the commission. We just need
to figure out how to move the thing forward, and the website will be an
invaluable resource, and my compliments to you.
I think it's going to be a nice model for a lot of other corridor projects
around the state, probably around the country. Thank you.
MR. JOHNSON: I also would like to thank you for the presentation and
reiterate what my fellow commissioners have said. Together we can be successful
on this project. There are significant challenges. Funding is the engine that
drives the train, obviously, and we do need to be collaborative in that effort,
and we do look forward to working with you.
This is an enormously important corridor for this entire state as a reliever
to some of the congestion on I-35, a lot of the NAFTA trade traffic, but just
within our state it's also -- has its significance too, so we do look forward to
working with you and we thank you for being here today.
We will stand in recess for five minutes, and we will reconvene at that time.
Thank you very much.
(Whereupon, a short recess was taken.)
MR. JOHNSON: A couple of housekeeping items before we move on. I would like
to remind anyone in the audience who would like to address the commission to
fill out a card in the registration table in the lobby. To comment on an agenda
item we would like for you to fill out a yellow card, and then if it is not an
agenda item please fill out a blue card and we'll take your comments at the end
of the meeting.
Before we get to the rest of our agenda, I think we have a special
presentation to make. There's a gentleman up here who has worked for the past 40
years for the Department of Transportation and its predecessor. Can you figure
out who that is?
MR. HEALD: By looking.
MR. JOHNSON: Wes has worked tirelessly to make our transportation network in
Texas one of the best, if not the best, in the country. For the past three years
he has been doing that at the helm of this agency, and under his leadership we
put an increased focus on our bridges and maintenance, core functions of our
department and its mission.
I want to personally thank Wes for his assistance when I came on the
commission -- and I'm sure I speak for the other commissioners whom I will offer
time to express their things, but when I say that we believe that this agency
could not be in better hands.
David, do you want to -- you've known Wes the longest.
MR. LANEY: But not for 40 years.
I have very little to add, Johnny, other than to say, Wes, I can't tell you
how much I appreciate all you've done long before you reached the position
you're currently in and since that time as well, and as far as I'm concerned if
there's anybody in the department that personifies the best of the department,
it's you.
MR. JOHNSON: Robert.
MR. NICHOLS: Wes, the state is a better place because of the work that you
have done over the last 40 years, and I want to tell you it has been a real
pleasure working with you for the last three years. It really has. So
congratulations on your 40 years.
MR. HEALD: Thank you.
MR. JOHNSON: I think we have a presentation and maybe a photograph
opportunity, a Kodak moment, but, Wes, I had a silver watch to give you --
(General applause.)
MR. JOHNSON: Wes, I think it's a great honor for each of us up here to have
joined in saluting you. I work in a family enterprise, and we've had a few
employees with long tenure, and I can't tell you how uplifting it is and how
great as Robert said your service to this state and to this agency have been
over the last 40 years, and we're better for it. Thank you so much.
MR. HEALD: Thank you. I appreciate it. I'm a little bit overwhelmed right
now, but it's been a very rewarding career, and I've been very blessed in
probably as much as anything the support of my family, but also the support of a
good commission.
I don't know ever when I can ever remember that we've had such a good quality
commission to work with, so I've been blessed, and I guess as far as the 40
years go it's just good to be alive.
(General laughter.)
MR. JOHNSON: Our first item of the agenda -- main part of the agenda is the
approval of minutes from our regular commission meeting in January and also the
emergency meetings before the House Transportation Committee on February 6 and
February 13. Is there a motion to approve those minutes?
MR. NICHOLS: So moved.
MR. JOHNSON: Is there a second?
MR. LANEY: Second, but I think I have to abstain before the other two. I
don't think I was part of the emergency meetings.
MR. JOHNSON: Well then, I'll second the motion. All in favor, signify by
saying aye.
(A chorus of ayes.)
MR. JOHNSON: That motion carries.
Now, Wes, if you've sufficiently recovered we'll turn over the rest of the
agenda to you.
MR. HEALD: I think there's been a little deception going on, or I need to
talk to Linda as soon as this meeting's over with.
Okay. Getting into the regular business portion of our meeting, the first
item is aviation to approve funding for certain airport improvement projects,
and Dave Fulton will present this.
MR. FULTON: Thanks, and congratulations, Wes.
Commissioners, my name for the record is David Fulton. I'm the director of
the TxDOT Aviation Division. Item 3 is a minute order containing a request for
funding approval for two planning and four airport construction projects.
Both planning projects and three of the four construction projects are
programmed to be funded with federal and local funding. The remaining project,
if approved, is programmed to be funded with state and local funding. Total
estimated cost of all the projects on the Exhibit A is approximately $5.4
million, approximately 4.6 million federal, 200,000 state, and approximately
500,000 in local funding.
A public hearing was held on February 5, 2001. No comments were received. We
would recommend approval of this minute order and would attempt to answer any
questions you might have.
MR. JOHNSON: Any questions?
MR. NICHOLS: So moved.
MR. LANEY: Second.
MR. JOHNSON: All in favor, signify by saying aye.
(A chorus of ayes.)
MR. JOHNSON: Motion carries.
David, thank you.
MR. FULTON: Thank you.
MR. HEALD: Under administrative rules we have three minute orders for your
consideration, all under final adoption starting with 4a(1), finance, James
Bass.
MR. BASS: Good morning. For the record I'm James Bass, director of TxDOT's
Finance Division.
This agenda item proposes amendments to Sections 5.43 and 5.44 of the Texas
Administrative Code, which deal with the payment of fees to TxDOT for goods and
services. These amendments would exempt products sold through Texas highways to
prevent any conflict with existing Section 23.27 that governs the sale of travel
promotional materials.
In December you approved the proposed amendments for publication in the Texas
Register, and no comments were received. Staff recommends your approval.
MR. JOHNSON: Any questions?
MR. NICHOLS: So moved.
MR. LANEY: Second.
MR. JOHNSON: All in favor, signify by saying aye.
(A chorus of ayes.)
MR. JOHNSON: Motion carries.
MR. HEALD: Thank you, James. 4a(2) under contract management, Robert Wilson.
MR. WILSON: Good morning. I'm Robert Wilson. I'm director of the Design
Division.
The minute order I bring to you this morning is for final adoption of rules
modifications to Title 43, Chapter 9, Section 9.31, 9.33, 9.38, and 9.41 to 9.43
pertaining to contracting for architectural, engineering, and surveying
services.
These amendments were originally the result of a task force of TxDOT,
Consulting Engineers Council, Texas Society for Professional Engineers, and
DBE/HUB representatives that reviewed our process and made suggestions to
streamline it as much as possible and arraign it in compliance with law and
qualifications-based selection.
A goal was set of not causing any unnecessary paperwork at TxDOT or
consultants, keeping the process open and fair to all qualified firms and
providing a quality exchange of information in the process of selecting the best
firm. It is believed that these amendments do that and are a continued move in
that direction.
The proposed amendments were first brought to you at the December meeting and
you approved publishing those for public comment. We received two comments.
These are outlined for you in Exhibit B attached to that minute order along with
the explanation of each amendment.
One comment was from the Consulting Engineers Council indicating support for
the amendments and commending TxDOT for taking steps to streamline the process
and improve consistency and flexibility. The other comment was from the City of
Amarillo questioning why we were striking the references to using past
performance in the selection process.
However, we are not striking that criteria but rather we are moving it from
being used for every firm submitting a letter of interest to later in the
process when evaluating the firms on the short list. This will reduce paperwork
for firms and shorten review times significantly for TxDOT reviewers, but past
performance will be a key factor in evaluating the firms on the short list to
select the most qualified firm.
We believe that the best firm will get the contract, and we believe that
these amendments are beneficial to everyone involved in the process. Staff
therefore recommends your approval of this minute order adopting these
amendments as final rules for implementation.
I'll be glad to answer any questions.
MR. JOHNSON: Any questions?
MR. LANEY: So moved.
MR. NICHOLS: Second.
MR. JOHNSON: All in favor, signify by saying aye.
(A chorus of ayes.)
MR. JOHNSON: Motion carries.
Thank you, Robert.
MR. HEALD: Item Number 4a(3), right of way, John Campbell.
MR. CAMPBELL: Good morning. I'm John Campbell, director of the Right of Way
Division. I'd like to present for your consideration Item 4a(3), minute order
for the final adoption of rule revisions to 43 Texas Administrative Code Chapter
21. The eight listed sections all pertain to the procedures and policy for
accommodation of public utility facilities on the right of way, collectively
referred to as the TxDOT utility accommodation policy.
The substance of these rule revisions are to make minor grammatical
corrections and to reflect changes in department organizational structure and
references to business titles no longer utilized by the department.
The Right of Way Division has reviewed the proposed rule revisions and
recommends your approval.
MR. JOHNSON: Any questions?
MR. NICHOLS: So moved.
MR. LANEY: Second.
MR. JOHNSON: All in favor, signify by saying aye.
(A chorus of ayes.)
MR. JOHNSON: Motion carries.
Thank you, John.
MR. HEALD: Agenda Item 4b under rule review, Richard Monroe.
MR. MONROE: Good morning, commissioners. In our ongoing program of rule
review as dictated by the Texas Government Code, Chapter 17 of the Vehicle Title
and Registration Rules were duly published. No comments were received. The
division is of the opinion that the rules are still needed, and by this order
you would readopt them.
I would recommend approval of the minute order.
MR. JOHNSON: Any questions?
MR. LANEY: So moved.
MR. NICHOLS: Second.
MR. JOHNSON: All in favor, signify by saying aye.
(A chorus of ayes.)
MR. JOHNSON: Motion carries. Thank you.
MR. HEALD: Agenda Item Number 5 under traffic operations, and this is
approving some additional environmental speed limits for the Dallas-Fort Worth
area. Carlos Lopez.
MR. LOPEZ: Good morning, commissioners. My name is Carlos Lopez and I'm
director of the Traffic Operations Division.
The minute order before you authorizes environmental speed limits on 28 miles
of State Highway 34 in Ellis and Kaufman counties. This highway was not included
in last month's minute order because of incomplete information on the limits of
the speed zone. We're also including a correction to a mileage calculation on US
287 in Tarrant County.
We recommend approval of this minute order.
MR. LANEY: So moved.
MR. NICHOLS: Second.
MR. JOHNSON: All in favor, signify by saying aye.
(A chorus of ayes.)
MR. JOHNSON: Motion carries.
MR. LANEY: Carlos, before you leave --
MR. LOPEZ: Yes.
MR. LANEY: -- you need to get with my successor about speed limits, help him
understand how they work.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay. We'll do that.
MR. HEALD: Okay. Under Item 6 we've got three minute orders for your
consideration, and, Al, I believe we're going to defer 6d. Right?
MR. LUEDECKE: Yes, sir.
MR. HEALD: So just go ahead and handle all three of them.
MR. LUEDECKE: For the record, I'm Al Luedecke, director of Transportation
Planning and Program Division.
Harris County Toll Road Authority intends to construct and maintain a
toll-free extension of the Hardy Toll Road from Interstate 610 at Spur 548 to
the central business district of Houston, downtown at Interstate 10, a distance
of approximately three and a half miles. The firm's been requested to facilitate
the operation of this by constructing on state system direct connectors to the
northern and southern termini of the project at Interstate 610 and Interstate
10, respectively.
The approximate cost for the entire three and a half mile extension is
approximately $70 million, which includes $17 million for the construction of
the direct connectors. Construction of the project and the direct connectors to
the state highway system will enhance the level of service to Interstate 45
North, which parallels the Hardy Toll Road, and it's estimated that
approximately 25,000 vehicles a day will be drawn from the I-45 corridor.
The minute order presented for your consideration authorizes the executive
director to proceed with the project development, including the construction of
the direct connectors of previously described limits, and that construction cost
not to exceed $17 million and to enter into any agreements with the Harris
County Toll Road Authority necessary to carry out this order.
We recommend your approval of this minute order.
MR. JOHNSON: Any questions?
MR. NICHOLS: So moved.
MR. LANEY: Second.
MR. JOHNSON: All in favor, signify by saying aye.
(A chorus of ayes.)
MR. JOHNSON: Motion carries.
MR. LUEDECKE: Item 6b is minute order authorizing replacement of a bridge in
Kerr County on the Hermann Sons Road at the Guadalupe River approximately
six-tenths of a mile south of State Highway 27 near the Kendall County line. The
bridge was damaged due to flooding and has been closed to traffic since October
of 2000. The ten-mile detour affects school buses and the postal service and is
the most direct route to the Hermann Sons Retirement Home which has
approximately 80 residents.
Since this bridge serves as a direct route for many of the county residents
the county has requested the department to accelerate this project. The
estimated cost to the bridge is $450,000, which includes 10 percent local
participation by the county.
With your approval of this minute order we can proceed with a replacement of
this bridge using Category 6b Off-state Highway System Bridge Replacement and
Rehabilitation Program funds in the 2001 UTP. We recommend your approval.
MR. JOHNSON: Questions?
MR. LANEY: So moved.
MR. NICHOLS: Second.
MR. JOHNSON: All in favor, signify by saying aye.
(A chorus of ayes.)
MR. JOHNSON: Motion carries.
MR. LUEDECKE: Item 6c -- we bring to you the second quarter program for
disadvantaged counties to address matching fund requirements. In your books is
Exhibit A that lists the projects and the staff's recommended adjustments for
each of them. The adjustments are based on the equations approved in earlier
proposals.
There are ten projects in five counties and a reduction in the participation
for these projects is $235,117. We recommend your approval of this minute order.
MR. JOHNSON: Questions?
MR. NICHOLS: I'll move but I also wanted to make a comment, and I think it's
important. I know a lot of people here are our staff people. There are other
people here also that the counties have received a benefit of about $22 million
related --
MR. LUEDECKE: Yes, sir. A little over 22 million.
MR. NICHOLS: With that I move we approve it.
MR. JOHNSON: Is there a second?
MR. LANEY: Second. Let me add a comment too though. We get to the point where
we make these adjustments and I see that the estimated local participation after
the adjustments is sometimes so minimal as to be not worth the effort. We might
want to at least consider going forward -- after I'm long gone, but going
forward -- a threshold below which you just don't ask for participation, whether
it's $5,000 or something, 10,000, because it's a $252 contribution --
MR. LUEDECKE: Yes, sir. Some of the projects are quite small. Of course, some
of them are very large too.
MR. LANEY: Right.
MR. LUEDECKE: You need a threshold.
MR. LANEY: Not a percentage threshold, a dollar threshold.
MR. LUEDECKE: Yes, sir. We'll certainly work on that.
MR. LANEY: Anyway, second.
MR. JOHNSON: All in favor, signify by saying aye.
(A chorus of ayes.)
MR. JOHNSON: Motion carries.
MR. LUEDECKE: Thank you.
MR. JOHNSON: Thanks.
MR. HEALD: Agenda Item Number 7 -- we have one SIB loan for your
consideration, James Bass.
MR. BASS: Again, for the record, I'm James Bass, director of the Finance
Division.
This minute order seeks preliminary approval for a loan to the City of
Bellaire in the amount of $3.18 million to pay for a portion of storm sewer
management improvements in connection with their rehabilitation of Interstate
610 from north of Braeswood Boulevard to south of Bellaire Boulevard.
When the application was originally submitted in September of 2000 the city
requested an interest rate of 4.75 percent over six years. I'd like to bring
your attention that since that time market rates have continued to drop, so if
approved the negotiations may result in a lower interest rate than that, and
staff would recommend your approval.
MR. JOHNSON: Any questions?
MR. LANEY: So moved.
MR. NICHOLS: Second.
MR. JOHNSON: All in favor, signify by saying aye.
(A chorus of ayes.)
MR. JOHNSON: Motion carries. Thank you.
MR. HEALD: Item Number 8, award or rejection of highway contracts, being
8a(1) and (2), Thomas Bohuslav.
MR. BOHUSLAV: Good morning, commissioners. My name is Thomas Bohuslav. I'm
the director of the Construction Division.
Item 8a(1) is for the consideration of the award or rejection of highway
maintenance contracts let on February 6 and 7, 2001, whose engineers estimated
costs were $300,000 or more. We had 16 projects bid. We have three projects we
recommend for rejection.
The first project is in Coke county. We received six bids, the lowest bid
being about 80 percent over the project. The district would like to go back and
do some redesign. We looked at that project to see if there was any way they
could get the prices down on that project.
Another project recommended for rejection is in Matagorda County, FM 457. The
project is number 4022. We received three bids on that project of 27 percent
over. On this product we had mobilization that overran a lot higher -- I believe
it was $35,000. We estimated 5,000 would be a big impact. This is an emergency
fender system repair. It's kind of a call-out basis whenever we have a problem
with those fenders, and we'd like to go back and rebid that project.
The last project in the maintenance contract recommended for rejection is
project number 4025 in Victoria County, US 59. In the other projects that we
let -- this is a MO contract -- in that area we received much better competition
and got lower prices. Even though this is only 13 percent of it we'd like to go
back and see if we can get some more competition and get better prices on this
project.
Staff recommends approval of all projects with the exception of those.
MR. JOHNSON: Thomas, when you have what I understood to be an emergency
situation like that and you want to rebid it, what are the procedures? How much
time are we talking about?
MR. BOHUSLAV: When I saw that wording on there I was concerned that -- and
that's kind of a misnomer. It's a call-out contract where if we do have
something that's hit, we can call the contractor and they can come out there on
an emergency basis, so it's what we might call an evergreen contract where we
just keep them there and we'll call them out whenever we do have some problems
out there.
So it's not an emergency right now. It will be possibly in the future when we
do have the hit to those fenders.
MR. JOHNSON: Is there a motion to approve recommendation on item 8a(1)?
MR. LANEY: So moved.
MR. NICHOLS: Second.
MR. JOHNSON: All in favor, signify by saying aye.
(A chorus of ayes.)
MR. BOHUSLAV: Item 8a(2) is for consideration of the award or rejection of
highway construction and building contracts let on February 6 and 7, 2001. We
had 99 products that were let. We have three projects recommended for rejection.
The first project is in Dallas County, and this project -- there was a
requirement in the general notes that there's a mandatory prebid, and the
apparent low bidder did not attend that mandatory prebid and therefore they
were -- should not have been qualified to bid the contract. We did receive their
proposal.
We didn't follow -- therefore we should not have accepted their proposal.
However, we didn't follow our normal procedures for notifying contractors of
mandatory prebids, and that we normally advertise in the newspaper, and we also
send notices out to contractors that there's mandatory prebids.
Because it was in the general notes the contractors didn't know about it
until after. In some cases for the contractors that there was a mandatory prebid,
so what we want to do is reject all the bids on this project and go back and
rebid it.
The next project recommended for rejection is a project in Bexar County. It's
heating, ventilation, and air-conditioning for a facility there. We were 78
percent over on this project. We'd like to go back and see if we can make some
changes and try to save some money on that project and relet it.
And again, in Sabine County, project CBC 4704-00-034. There was a project
there that we're 41 percent over for a maintenance facility in the Beaumont
District, and we'd like to go back and have the consultant rework that product
to see if we can get that cost down on the project.
Staff recommends approval of all projects with the exception noted.
MR. JOHNSON: On item 8a(2) we have somebody that would like to speak, Jim
Bell, from City of Rosenberg, the director of project development.
Welcome, Mr. Bell.
MR. BELL: Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the commission.
The project that I represent the City of Rosenberg on is an overpass project
within Fort Bend County. We've been working on this project for over six years.
Actually, it's a dream of many of the old timers of our city that exceeded over
50 years.
We only have three grade crossings in the city, and we are blessed with two
major railroad complexes of the Santa Fe and the Union Pacific.
In 1993 we were doing the engineering studies for this overpass, which will
be an S curve type program four lanes wide. At that time we determined that
there was going to be in ten years not 16 trains per day but 57 trains per day
through our city, of which we only had grade crossings.
Today we are at 33 trains a day, minimum. We already are facing gridlock.
Also, you as a commission established an evacuation fund I think around 1994, at
which time Highway FM 723 was designated as an evacuation route. With what we
knew coming to be a gridlock of the 57 trains, we moved rapidly, working with
you in partnership to try and get a new overpass, which was approved to take
place.
Our job was we acquired 19 properties either partially or in full. We were
responsible for all the utility relocations, and thankfully HL&P worked closely
with us, and we have to actually transverse through a major substation right
there in the city. That has been taken care of.
We also have been participating with your district office, and we funded
upgrading the railings and appearance of the overpass and the lighting, all of
which will fit within the architecture of the old city.
I do wish to thank very much the cooperation we've had with your staff. Mr.
Trietsch came from this office to be our district engineer. We never missed a
heartbeat from Mr. Dietert's retirement to Mr. Trietsch, and also with his very
able associates, Mr. Johnson and Mr. Darden.
We felt for all these projects we'd been through -- and I know, Mr. Laney,
you've sat in on several of them, a series of them -- that we respectfully thank
the commission's consideration and the citizens of Rosenberg and Fort Bend
County. This connector which will allow for the development of the north area
into the city and down in to tie into US 59 does become more critical each day,
and we certainly thank you for your help and consideration.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you for being here, Mr. Bell.
We'll entertain a motion for the approval of the recommendations under 8a(2).
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