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Texas Department of Transportation Commission Meeting
Commission Room
Dewitt Greer Building
125 East 11th Street
Austin, Texas 78701-2483
9:00 a.m. Thursday, November 15, 2001
COMMISSION MEMBERS:
ROBERT L. NICHOLS, Presiding Member
RIC WILLIAMSON
STAFF:
MIKE BEHRENS, Executive Director
RICHARD MONROE, General Counsel
HELEN HAVELKA, Executive Assistant, Engineering Operations
PROCEEDINGS
MR. NICHOLS: We'll declare this meeting of the Texas Transportation
Commission open, in accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Law. Today's date is
November 15. Time is 9:12. Let the record show that a public notice of this and
all items on the agenda was filed with the Office of the Secretary of State at
2:47, November 2.
Do you have comments you'd like to make?
MR. WILLIAMSON: No, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: I apologize for the little bit of a late start. We had a -- I
think a little bit of a transportation problem getting Commissioner Williamson
here. He did not get here by state transportation, state-supplied. He arrived by
state-approved transportation.
Before we get started, I'd also like to say -- remind everybody that today is
Texas Recycle Day, November 15, to try to create awareness around the state of
every opportunity to recycle goods. It's good for the environment; it's good for
the economy. The Texas Department of Transportation makes a great effort to
recycle goods itself, and is one of the higher ranking agencies in the state
with that regard.
Before we get started, I'd also remind anyone who would like to address the
commission to be sure to fill out a card that's on the counter out there. If
it's an item that's on the agenda, it will be a yellow card. If it's an item
that's not on the agenda, it will be a blue card. Everyone will have an
opportunity to speak. We'll have to limit those comments to three minutes, with
the exception of state elected officials. They can speak as long as they would
like.
And we begin this morning with Item Number 1, a public hearing regarding our
highway project selection process. Call on Jim Randall.
MR. RANDALL: Thank you, Commissioners. My name is Jim Randall, director of
the Transportation Planning and Programming Division for the Texas Department of
Transportation.
The notice for this public hearing was filed with the Secretary of State on
October 3, 2001, and published in the Texas Register on October 12, 2001.
And I am pleased to make this presentation on behalf of the commission.
This public hearing is conducted annually in accordance with the Texas
Transportation Code, Sections 201.602 and 222.034. Section 201.602 prescribes
that the Texas Transportation Commission is to hold annual hearings concerning
its project selection process and the relative importance of the various
criteria on which the commission bases its project selection decisions. The
commission will receive data, comments, views, and/or testimony from any person,
organization, or group, and their representatives.
Section 222.034 states that the federal aid for transportation purposes
administered by the commission shall be distributed to the various parts of the
state for a funding cycle through the selection of highway projects in the state
in a manner that is consistent with federal formulas that determine the amount
of federal aid for transportation purposes received by the state. The
distribution under this section of the Texas Transportation Code does not
include deductions made for the state infrastructure banks or other federal
funds reallocated by the federal government. The commission may vary from the
distribution procedure provided it issues a ruling or minute order identifying
the variance and providing particular justification for the variance.
The commission will consider comments made at this hearing and written
comments following this hearing until January 29, 2002. You can send written
comments to the address or email shown. A minute order describing the
commission's decisions relating to the project selection process and the
distribution of federal aid will be made at a subsequent public commission
meeting. I will show these addresses again at the end of the presentation.
You can refer to a public hearing document that was made available to those
who requested it and follow along during my presentation. If any of the folks in
the audience did not get a copy, they're available in the foyer.
TxDOT is multimodal and relies on the following modes of transportation to
address the needs of the public, including: transit programs, aviation programs,
highway programs, rail and water transportation. I'd like to point out here the
programs will be developed for rail and water transportation in the future, as
TxDOT becomes more involved with these modes. But now I'd like to further
discuss transit, aviation, and highway programs, and I'll start with transit.
TxDOT does not now own or operate transit services in Texas. It does,
however, have a financial interest in the most public systems through the
allocation of federal and state funds. Funds are allocated to urbanized areas:
those areas of 50,000 or greater population not served by a transit authority;
non-urbanized and rural areas; and for elderly and disabled transportation.
For urbanized areas, these agencies apply directly to Federal Transit
Administration for federal funds. State funds support capital, administrative,
and operating expenses. Ninety percent of the state funds are distributed as
directed by statute or the Texas -- or by the Transportation Code, while 10
percent are distributed at the commission's discretion.
For non-urbanized and rural areas, funds support capital, administrative, and
operating expenses with federal and state funds flowing through TxDOT. Ninety
percent of the federal and state funds are distributed by statute or the
Transportation Code, while 10 percent are distributed at the commission's
discretion.
Elderly and disabled transportation funds support capital purchases,
purchases of service and preventative maintenance. Federal funds flow through
TxDOT and are allocated to the districts and metropolitan planning organizations
as directed by Title 43, Texas Administrative Code. Projects are selected by
TxDOT in consultation or cooperation with the metropolitan planning
organizations and local officials, and no state funds are provided.
TxDOT is not involved in the federal grant process for metropolitan transit
authorities, or MTAs, in Austin, Corpus Christi, Dallas, El Paso, Fort Worth,
Houston, and San Antonio. The authorities are not eligible to receive state
funds and must rely on local sales tax to support their activities.
TxDOT addresses the needs of general aviation through the Aviation Facilities
Development Program. This program provides assistance to public entities for the
purpose of establishing, constructing, reconstructing, enlarging, or repairing
airports, airstrips, or navigation facilities.
The planning process, which is documented in the Texas Airport Systems Plan,
or TASP, identifies those airports and projects which will best support the
attainment of the airport system plan objectives. The primary objective of TASP
is to develop a statewide system of airports that meets the goals of providing
adequate access to the population and economic centers of Texas.
Adequate access expressed in terms of driving time between activity centers
and appropriate airport facilities: Scheduled air carrier service should be
within a 60-minute drive for virtually all Texas residents. Business jet
aircraft access should be within a 30-minute drive of significant population
centers or mineral resource centers. Light piston-engine aircraft access should
be within a 30-minute drive of agricultural centers.
MR. NICHOLS: I guess so.
MR. WILLIAMSON: I'm just curious, Jim. What is a mineral resource center?
MR. RANDALL: I would assume that that would be a -- one of our -- not knowing
the airport -- the aviation program, I would assume that would be one of our
maybe refineries or something like that?
MR. WILLIAMSON: Okay. So a processing plant, as opposed to --
MR. RANDALL: Yes, sir.
MR. WILLIAMSON: -- the wells or the mines themselves.
MR. RANDALL: Yes, sir.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Okay. That makes sense.
MR. RANDALL: I don't know -- if Dave Fulton was here, he might be able to
enlighten us on that.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Well, that would make sense, if that's what a mineral
resource center is. If it's where the minerals are actually mined, it would be
kind of hard for us to achieve that.
MR. RANDALL: Yes, sir.
Criteria for project selection is based on the identified need related to the
TASP objectives, the amount of sponsored commitment, the system priorities that
are identified in the TASP, and the availability of state and federal funds.
Highway programs make up the majority of transportation programs TxDOT
develops. These are the programs most familiar to the citizens of Texas. The
projects in these programs are financed through federal aid and state funds.
Both these revenue sources are sponsored, in large, by the motor fuel tax. The
federal portion of the taxes collected in Texas go back to the state with
restrictions on its spending.
The Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century, or TEA-21, is the current
federal transportation bill that authorizes the development and construction of
federal aid projects. TEA-21 was passed by Congress and signed into law by the
president on June 9, 1998. This bill spells out the current restrictions on
federal aid funds.
Several major programs are allocated to Texas based on the quantifiable data
which compares Texas to other states and commonwealths within the United States.
Those major federal aid highway funding categories allocated to individual
states include: the Interstate Maintenance Program, the National Highway System
Program, Surface Transportation Program, Congestion Mitigation/Air Quality
Improvement Program, and the Highway Bridge Program.
In the past, TxDOT created separate funding categories for each of these
programs in order to assure that the construction spending was within the
federal limitations. Setting up categories in this way has the benefit of
assuring projects qualify for federal funds from the project's inception
forward, but this process also has the following disadvantages: The same system
was used to grade state-funded programs; therefore, 34 categories were created
in all, with some of the federal and state categories overlapping in their
strategies to improve the transportation system. This also made the programs and
the project selection process confusing.
Recently, TxDOT staff requested the Texas Transportation Institute to perform
a survey of TxDOT district planning and metropolitan planning organization
personnel, as well as county judges. The survey focused on the perceived
limitations in TxDOT's project selection and funds distribution process and
suggested improvements.
The report results in specific recommendations that TxDOT will use to improve
highway construction, project programming, and the general understanding and
acceptance of TxDOT's procedures.
In addition, Governor Rick Perry has requested the Texas Transportation
Commission to simplify the project planning process and deliver highway
improvements in continuous and complete corridors, thereby increasing efficiency
and decreasing inconvenience to the motorists.
TxDOT is now proposing to change the project selection process based on these
recommendations. All the pertinent changes are included in the public hearing
document.
The primary focus for these changes include: Simplifying the process by
reducing the number of highway funding categories from 34 to 12, using less
confusing terminology regarding project authority levels, and providing better
education and training on the new categories and their guidelines.
The proposed changes will be incorporated into the 2003 Unified
Transportation Program. In order to simplify the process, TxDOT now proposes to
consolidate eight existing maintenance and rehabilitation categories into one,
Category 1 - Preventative Maintenance and Rehabilitation.
In addition, we propose to collapse 12 statewide mobility categories into the
following three: Category 2, Metropolitan Area Transportation Management Areas,
or TMA, Corridor Projects; Category 3, Urban Area Non-TMA Corridor Projects; and
Category 4, Statewide Connectivity Corridor Projects.
Category 5, Congestion Mitigation and Air Quality Improvement, or CMAQ, will
remain. This is true for other categories, including Category 7, Surface
Transportation Program, or STP, Metropolitan Mobility and Rehabilitation;
Category 8, STP Safety; Category 9, STP Transportation Enhancements; and
Category 12, Strategic Priority.
TxDOT proposes to combine three bridge replacement and rehabilitation
categories into one, Category 6, Structures Replacement and Rehabilitation.
Category 10, Miscellaneous, will combine our existing Miscellaneous category
with the State Park Roads Program.
And finally, TxDOT proposes to combine four mobility categories into Category
11, District Discretionary. These three major mobility categories will focus on
providing continuous and complete corridor improvements throughout the state,
although a corridor project selection process has not been formulated at this
time. The exact process or formula will be determined by collaborative effort
between TxDOT staff and our transportation partners, including the metropolitan
planning organizations.
We invite the public to comment on the selection criteria for these three
categories through written correspondence regarding this hearing.
The remaining portion of this presentation is intended to fulfill the
requirements of Section 201.602 and 222.034 of the Texas Transportation Code and
describe how the previously mentioned federal aid funds will be incorporated
into the new categories.
The Interstate Maintenance Program funds will be incorporated into the new
Category 1, Preventive Maintenance and Rehabilitation Program. The Interstate
Maintenance Program funds are allocated to the state based on the following
weighted percentages: 33-1/3 percent based on the lane miles of interstate
system within the state, 33-1/3 percent based on the vehicle miles traveled on
interstate system within the state, and 33-1/3 percent based on the state's
contributions to the Highway Trust Fund due to commercial vehicles.
TxDOT proposes to allocate its Interstate Maintenance Program funds to the
TxDOT districts based on the following criteria: 45 percent based on the
equivalent single-axle loads per interstate highway section -- this criteria is
an indicator of the amount of commercial truck traffic operating on the
interstate highways within a district; 10 percent based on the interstate
highway lane miles within a district; and 45 percent based on the interstate
lane miles within a district with substandard stress scores.
The reasons for the variance from the federal funds -- federal formula are:
individual TxDOT district or regional contributions to the Highway Trust Fund
cannot be quantified; the federal formula does not account for pavement
distress; the federal formula does not account for the volume of commercial
truck traffic; and the federal formula does not account for the region's need to
build new interstate or add capacity to the existing system.
National Highway System Program, or NHS funds, are allocated to Texas based
on the following: 25 percent based on lane miles of principal arterial routes
within the state; 35 percent based on the vehicle miles traveled on these
principal arterials; 30 percent based on the amount of diesel fuel used with the
state; and 10 percent on the quotient obtained by dividing the total lane miles
on the principal arterial highways by the population.
TxDOT proposes to use its NHS program funds to fund the following three
specific categories: Category 2, Metropolitan Area (TMA) Corridor Projects;
Category 3, Urban Area Non-TMA Corridor Projects; and Category 4, Statewide
Connectivity Corridor Projects.
The reason for the variance from the federal NHS program formula are:
individual TxDOT district or regional usage of commercial diesel fuel cannot be
quantified; the federal formula does not account for pavement distress; the
federal formula does not address TxDOT strategy of system development and
preservation; the federal formula does not address specific TxDOT district or
regional needs, such as congestion relief, improved operations, and pavement
rehabilitation needs.
The Surface Transportation Program, or STP, funds are allocated to Texas
based on the following criteria: 25 percent based on the total miles of highways
within the state that qualify for federal aid funds; 40 percent based on the
vehicle miles traveled on highways within the state that qualify for federal aid
funds; 35 percent based on tax payments from within the state into the Highway
Trust Fund.
TxDOT proposes to use its STP funding in the following four categories:
Category 7, STP Metropolitan Mobility and Rehabilitation; Category 8, STP
Safety; Category 9, STP Transportation Enhancements; Category 11, District
Discretionary. Categories 7, 8, and 9 are required sub-allocations of the STP
program funds.
The reason for the variance from the federal formula are: TEA-21 requires
TxDOT to suballocate the funds in a manner that differs from the federal
distribution formula.
And finally, the Highway Bridge Program. The Highway Bridge Program funds are
allocated to Texas based on the relative share of the total cost of deficient
bridges as compared to the totals of other states.
TxDOT proposes to use the Highway Bridge Program funds on projects in
Category 6, Structures Replacement and Rehabilitation Program. The ranking and
selection criteria for this category can be found on page 10 of the public
hearing document.
The reasons for the variance are: the federal allocation formula does not
address the selection of the most functionally obsolete and structurally
deficient bridges, and the federal formula does not assure required minimum
funding levels for off-system bridges are achieved.
An important factor in the project selection process is the amount of funds
available to build projects. In order for TxDOT's project development process to
maintain its efficiency, projects must be selected several years in advance of
their actual funding. TxDOT uses funding forecasts to predict future revenues
from federal and state sources, and the programs or selects projects
corresponding to the anticipated funds. When the dollars become available, the
program projects are then funded and constructed. In other words, programming is
a commitment to construct the project when the forecasted funds become
available.
TxDOT's proposed programming levels for fiscal year 2006 can be found on page
13 of the public hearing document. These are programming levels for highway
programs only. The values are subject to change as the funding forecasts are
further refined.
Once again, I would like to call your attention to the public hearing
document that was made available in the foyer. This document contains the
information regarding each proposed category including the TxDOT category name
and number, the entity responsible for project selection, whether the program is
treated as a bank-balance program or is authorized as individual projects, the
allocation and ranking formula that is involved, and a brief summary of the type
of work the program addresses.
As promised, here are the addresses to send written comments. Again, the
deadline is January 29, 2002. On behalf of the commission, I'd like to thank you
for listening to this important information, and this concludes my presentation.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you, Jim.
Do you have any comments or questions before we get into the public comments?
MR. WILLIAMSON: Only that I'm real proud at what they've done so far, and I'm
real pleased with it.
MR. NICHOLS: Couple of questions I had before we get into the public
comments. The -- okay. After today's hearing, the public will have how many days
to send in written comments?
MR. RANDALL: They'll have 75 days. They'll have until January 29, 2002.
MR. NICHOLS: And the formal approval of this after all that is --
MR. RANDALL: Will be in February 2002 at that commission meeting.
MR. NICHOLS: I'd also like to compliment your group and administration for
the rework of this very complicated and important process.
For the public, an awful lot of what was said today is very significant in
the fact that we're trying to take a process that has evolved very logically but
had become very complicated for the public to understand, even professionals out
in the field. We're taking 32 of our funding categories and bringing them down
to 12.
We're trying to put more authority, as well as responsibility, at the
district level, closer to the projects, so that we can tackle entire projects,
whether it be a metropolitan, urban, or rural connectivity project.
So -- and rather than telling that district which segment you will do first,
we're going to commit to the entire project and then let that district determine
which is the best way to put it together and which funds, and so on, in their
area.
It's very significant. I think it's going to be a great -- but -- so, with
that --
MR. WILLIAMSON: Mr. Chair, do I understand that by January 2003 or
thereabouts when we journey across the street to explain our program that our
friends in the House and Senate will hear us using common words like "plan,"
"develop," "construct"?
MR. NICHOLS: (Laughs.)
MR. RANDALL: Yes, sir. That -- once y'all approve what we've presented here
at the public hearing, we'll draft the 2003 UTP, and in that draft that goes out
to public comment, that's when the folks will see our new terminology to try to
make it more understandable to everybody.
MR. WILLIAMSON: I say that not -- I mean, laughingly, but seriously, Senator
Duncan, that one of the complaints that Mr. Nichols and Mr. Johnson and I heard
during this last session is, you know, You guys bring us papers, and it's
written in a language we can't possibly understand. And so I think what we're
going to bring you in January of '03 is something that we can all understand.
Your project's either in the development stage or the planning stage or the
construction stage, period.
MR. NICHOLS: I think also -- you may not have touched on it, but I think
we're going to be working to put all of this in a very simplified booklet --
hopefully, it will available sometime in the spring or early summer -- that will
explain all this in terms and pictures and kind of do a statewide, regionalized
approach, so that somebody can look into a region and see what we're doing not
only currently but with some of the plans in the future.
MR. WILLIAMSON: I'm particularly excited, Chairman, that this approach
apparently offers a possibility of less disruption to the traveling public on a
corridor basis. I think that's wonderful.
MR. NICHOLS: So we'll get into our public -- yes, sir. Okay. First card I've
got is Senator Robert Duncan.
Senator, we certainly do appreciate the work you've done in support of
transportation over the years.
SEN. DUNCAN: Well, thank you. We appreciate the work y'all have done to
allocate transportation needs across the state. We know it's a tough job.
But, you know, I'm excited about today -- as I was perusing my Texas
Register and I saw a notice of this hearing -- you know, they need pictures
in that book.
(General laughter.)
SEN. DUNCAN: No. I really became excited at this concept, because I do
believe that, Commissioner Williamson, you're exactly right: The complexity of
highway funding, I think, even confuses legislators, believe it or not.
And I do believe that the goal here is appropriate. I'm excited about it. I
have been briefed on it, and I commend the commission for taking this bold step,
and the staff for the hard work that they've done here.
The new district that I have -- and I'm particularly interested. I just
wanted everybody to note that the proposed new district that I have has 18
percent of the state's land mass in it. So that -- I think 18 percent of the
state's highway funds then probably ought to be going there. I'm not sure if
that's how this new plan works, but --
(General laughter.)
MR. WILLIAMSON: So using the -- some of the urban complaints recently, we
should allocate based on road miles.
SEN. DUNCAN: Yes, well, or land mass. Land area would be a -- I think, with
all seriousness, I do think that this plan would work well, will work well.
There were a few questions that I had that I just raised, rhetorically, or at
least at this time, that perhaps should be addressed.
First of all, I want to say that it looks like this plan, for projects like
the East-West Freeway that you have been supporting and working on in Lubbock, I
think that for that type of a project this plan works very well. I think it
would give us the ability to tell our constituents in the Lubbock and in the
West Texas region that that highway has -- it will be completed at some date in
time and not -- we're not having to go piecemeal to construct that, which means
efficiency not only in your highway-dollar allocation decisions that you make,
but it also means efficiency in our communities, because of the decreased
congestion.
And when you speed those things up, it just -- highway construction costs a
lot of dollars that we don't see, economic development dollars or just retail
dollars. So we see speeding these projects up and being able to put them on some
predictability with regard to completion is a good idea.
The concerns I do have is -- and I look -- referring back to the East-West
Freeway issue -- Lubbock would be a region that would basically be kind of like
a UIL realignment issue. When you have these -- when you transition from urban
to metropolitan, Lubbock is right on that cusp. And the question I would have is
is what if you have your funding -- if you gain your funding while you're in an
urban category but then you transition to a metropolitan category, do those
funds transfer, do you maintain your status quo, or do you lose when you get
elevated up?
MR. NICHOLS: We've got -- Jim Randall could probably answer that, but as I
understand it, once a commitment is made on a project, then that project -- it's
project-specific.
SEN. DUNCAN: So the project's grandfathered in --
MR. NICHOLS: Yes.
SEN. DUNCAN: -- regardless of the transition.
MR. NICHOLS: If there is a commitment on a project, it is grandfathered in.
He's shaking his head yes.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Yes. Senator, traditionally on almost all the changes that
we've made, and certainly all of the remarkable changes we've made in the last
six months, we're attempting to hold to the standard that if we gave our word,
we keep it.
SEN. DUNCAN: Well, I assumed that was the case, and I just -- but I wanted to
at least raise that --
MR. NICHOLS: Point on the record?
SEN. DUNCAN: Well -- exactly.
(General laughter.)
SEN. DUNCAN: And you've been there; you know. You know exactly what I'm
talking about.
The other thing is is that how is the money going to be allocated between the
three categories. Population seems to be a driver. You know, with more corridors
than money, it will tempting also to do things like perhaps fund a percentage of
a corridor as opposed to -- like 70 percent or 80 percent as opposed to 100
percent. And I would encourage you to do the best you can to fund 100 percent of
these corridors so that we don't get back into the same mode of, Well, how --
when are we going to get the rest of it done.
The whole advantage of this, it seems like to me, is to put a beginning and
an end to a project, which I think all of us would like to see, and would make
these -- make our constituents, I think, feel more confident in what we're
doing. So I encourage that, as well.
But I really want to put -- I want to go on record as supporting this concept
wholeheartedly. We really believe in what you're doing here, and I think it will
be best not only for rural Texas but all Texas. So thank you for your work. And
if you have any questions of me, I'll be happy to address them.
MR. NICHOLS: On your question or concern about how is the funding going to
change, over the next -- first year of this change, going from 34 categories to
12, they are going to take the same allocation formulas and just squeeze them
into those so that each area is basically getting pretty much the same as it
was.
SEN. DUNCAN: Same as it is.
MR. NICHOLS: Yes. And then as we go into the second year using this, we're
going to develop -- and he covered it -- a few of those categories, we're going
to try to develop a means in which everybody can participate on how we arrive at
some of those. So it's going to be a one-year study on that, hoping
[phonetic] -- input and so on.
SEN. DUNCAN: So that will be something --
MR. WILLIAMSON: We recognize, Senator, that the worst thing that can happen
to us, in effect, the largest central state agency distributing state tax
dollars, is to pit Houston against Lubbock and Dallas against Rio Grande City.
We know that's not good for us; it's not good for the state.
In fact, we work very hard every day to try to say to people who complain,
This is one state, one people, sometimes my district gets more, sometimes it
gets less, but we need to focus on the state's needs and not divide ourselves.
So we hear clearly what you're saying. We're not going to let that happen.
SEN. DUNCAN: All right.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you very much.
SEN. DUNCAN: Thank you. I appreciate it.
MR. NICHOLS: Next is Representative John Shields.
MR. RAINES: I'm not Rep. John Shields, as you can tell. I'm one of his
staffers. My name is Stephen Raines. And actually, and I'm going to submit
comments on his behalf, if that's all right with you.
MR. NICHOLS: That's fine.
MR. RAINES: I'm just going to read them into the record, and then we'll
submit the written ones later, if that's all right.
MR. NICHOLS: That's fine.
MR. RAINES: Thanks.
First of all, thank you for the opportunity to provide comments on the
Transportation Institute's final report on TxDOT's project selection funds
distribution process.
First of all, I want to thank you for all your help in providing the state
discretionary funding for San Antonio and Bexar County area. Your most recent
distribution of $144 million in strategic priority funding was helpful in a
number of projects, and your assistance with Loop 410 and the Kelly Parkway is
also appreciated.
In 2000, the San Antonio District had almost 1.5 million vehicles driving 35
million miles per day, representing 12 percent of the state's total vehicle
miles traveled daily. However, we also have 10,366 on-system lane miles or 18
percent of the state's total lane mileage. That mileage is mostly attributable
to the transportable planning and successful construction efforts of former
TxDOT district engineers.
That extra mileage may also help explain why San Antonio was ranked 22nd best
in mobility of the 70 major cities across the United States. Even so, according
to some of the San Antonio Metropolitan Planning Organization information we've
received, San Antonions suffer from 26 million hours of delay annually and lose
38 million gallons of fuel are wasted idling in congestion. And our annual
congestion costs are estimated at about $395 million, or $435 per driver.
To make matters worse, our metropolitan transportation plan projects that by
2025, San Antonio's population will increase 34 percent, from 1.5 to 2 million.
Vehicle miles traveled daily will increase by 60 percent, from 35 million to 56
million miles per day. Traffic congestion levels will increase by 60 percent in
spite of $9.6 billion in transportation investment, which would include 5.6
billion for roadways and $4 billion for transit.
San Antonio fully supports the recommendations that you have today and the
idea to overhaul the project selection funds distribution process. The
categories of the plan, develop, and construct that you were talking about
earlier will not significantly be different from the long-range,Priority 2 and
Priority 1 plan and be more plainspoken in their functions for citizens and
leaders, as Commissioner Williamson said earlier.
I want to applaud the idea of collapsing the 34 separate funding categories
into 12 and giving the local TxDOT districts extra flexibility to pursue
mobility projects in accordance with the desires of the local citizens. I
especially like the idea of abandoning a cost-effectiveness index that has
prevented San Antonio from bringing corridors and projects critical to
maintaining area levels of mobility forward from our long-range plan category to
Priority 2.
Competition at the state level through the CEI process has seriously impeded
regional efforts to try and keep pace with growing congestion. The
transportation plan suggested by TTI to involve MPOs and the development of a
new corridor selection process for the 2004 Unified Transportation Plan also
will improve the process.
Please recognize that San Antonio's Priority 2 corridors and projects have
been handicapped and that they were originally selected through the
cost-effectiveness index process. This resulted in funding only small pieces of
various critical corridors throughout the San Antonio area.
At expected of levels of funding, it will take San Antonio to at least 2013
to complete current Priority 2 projects. Accordingly, some catch-up mechanism
should be considered for assisting these projects and the entire corridor to
sooner completion.
There also needs to be a fair share on return of investment, which you talked
about earlier, Commissioner. Metropolitan areas should be guaranteed a minimum
return --
MR. WILLIAMSON: Not a term I like to hear.
MR. RAINES: Okay. I'll keep that in mind.
MR. WILLIAMSON: I made it pretty plain that fair share can't be defined.
MR. RAINES: Absolutely. That's why we just want to make sure we understand
we'd like a fair share and it's your idea to determine that.
(General laughter.)
MR. RAINES: We just like to make recommendations.
According to the San Antonio Metropolitan Planning Organization estimates,
the metropolitan area slice of the TxDOT Priority 1 funding has dwindled from
'98 to 2001 from 92 percent to 81 percent.
MR. WILLIAMSON: In fact, let me just say right now, because John's a friend
of mine, and I know you'll go back and report to him, and I hope he's a state
senator someday, as apparently he wishes to be.
Here's the dilemma. Your testimony, first of all, you offer facts and
figures, and I guess you're going to provide us a source for that at some point
so we'll know -- unlike recent articles in the Houston paper, we'll know what
your source is.
MR. RAINES: The source for the information in these comments we got from the
metropolitan planning organization.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Ah.
MR. RAINES: And their formulas for determining that, I think, they can
probably provide to you, and someone will see to that --
MR. WILLIAMSON: Oh. So you're reading into the record as factual actually
what someone else has provided to you, but you don't know what the source of
that is --
MR. RAINES: Yes, sir.
MR. WILLIAMSON: -- other than -- you know, the newspapers do that a lot now.
The problem with defining fair share is, you've just told us that you liked
changing it to a corridor approach because the bits and pieces, the piecemeal
process, drags things out. And yet the reason we find ourselves in the piecemeal
bind is because every year, apparently, all of the constituent groups of the
state want their fair share.
MR. RAINES: Absolutely.
MR. WILLIAMSON: So we have this dilemma. You've got Houston, San Antonio --
although not Dallas anymore, interestingly enough -- coming to the commission
and raising Cain about fair share.
MR. RAINES: Sure.
MR. WILLIAMSON: So we do things piecemeal so it is kind of fair share, and
then people start raising Cain about piecemeal and never get anything finished.
MR. RAINES: You're exactly right.
MR. WILLIAMSON: So you might pass along to John, we're trying to get to a
point where it's fair share for the state and not for one piece of the state.
MR. RAINES: And I think that's what the comments he was wanting to make are.
I think you've made a very good improvement in that process. We just want to
make sure that our fair share is definitely our biggest interest here.
MR. WILLIAMSON: I think I'm going to win.
(General laughter.)
MR. WILLIAMSON: Fair share. Hm.
MR. RAINES: The only other comments I had was with the passage of Proposition
15, hope there'll be more funding available in years ahead. And thank you again
for the opportunity to provide comments. If you want any future comments or
information on these, please contact him at the office or myself. I can help
you.
MR. NICHOLS: All right. Thank you very much.
MR. RAINES: Thank you.
MR. NICHOLS: I appreciate it.
Next card up is Representative Gary Walker. I call him Chairman Walker.
Now, as I understand it, you did not want to speak, but you wanted to be
shown as -- on record as in favor of this. Thank you very much. And, sir, we
really do appreciate the help you've given us, particularly last session. I know
a couple times they got in a pretty good pinch, you came in and raised up the
flag, you helped, and I really appreciate that.
Individuals, as a reminder, as I go through these names and you come to the
podium, state your name officially for the record to the mike. And also, there's
a three-minute timer that's green. When there's one minute left, it turns
yellow, and when the three minutes is up it turns red. Try to be fair to
everybody. If we ask questions, then we extend the time on that.
Kevin Evans, from Lubbock.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Hey, Kevin.
MR. EVANS: How are you today? Thank you for allowing me to speak. My name is
Kevin Evans, president of the Ports-to-Plains Trade Corridor Coalition,
representing them here today on this matter. Bring you greetings and regrets
from our chairman, Randy Neugebauer. He is not able to be here. He's trying to
make a living, and I keep chastising him as my volunteer chairman for trying to
make a living, but he keeps telling me he doesn't care and that that's what they
hired me for. So I'm happy about that.
I'd simply like to say, Ditto. As usual, Senator Duncan makes my job
extremely easy. We certainly would echo everything that he has said.
Want to congratulate the commission, the staff, for doing an excellent job in
taking what the senator described as a very bold step, and it is, in the right
direction. Certainly we're excited about the continuous and complete corridors
aspect, being a trade corridor that goes from Laredo to Denver.
Just finished up another summit conference in Lubbock. It very successful,
very well attended. Know that many of you couldn't be here, but would like to
tell you that your staff that participated in that did an absolutely wonderful
job, very informative. And hopefully you'll make the next one.
Simply say thank you for making this effort. We will be submitting written
comments, and we're very excited about the change in this process.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you very much.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Thank you.
MR. NICHOLS: Larry Hertel, Lubbock.
MR. HERTEL: Yes. I'm Larry Hertel, city engineer with the City of Lubbock.
In a joint meeting of the Transportation Policy and Advisory Committees of
the Lubbock MPO, there was a unanimous vote to support the proposed changes to
TxDOT's project selection process. These changes to simplify the process and
deliver highway improvements in a continuous and complete corridors are concepts
that we certainly favor and support, and I'm just here to indicate the support
of the Lubbock MPO and the City of Lubbock.
Thank you very much.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Well, thank you.
MR. NICHOLS: Bob Anderson, county commissioner, Hood County.
MR. WILLIAMSON: My part of the world.
MR. ANDERSON: Thank you for allowing me to speak to you this morning.
I'm from Hood County. County seat is Granbury, Texas, that lies just
southwest of the Fort Worth-Dallas area. We have experienced a 40 percent growth
in our population over this last decade, and it doesn't appear that it's
slowing.
And as I sat and listened to the larger metropolitan areas and their growth
and their challenges that they have, I just want to hold up the smaller areas
that lie contingent with the Tarrant counties and the Dallas counties, that we
are under great stress under a situation that is causing us a lot of problems.
We're experiencing 38,000 cars a day, plus -- at a business bypass split in
Hood County. The bypass -- it was built in the mid-'70s -- is greatly congested.
Hood County recently developed a master transportation plan, and I appreciate
the changes that have been made in the process. I think it'll be beneficial to
us to complete -- help us complete this master transportation plan with the
assistance of the state.
So I am in favor of this and hope to be coming before you very soon for
proposals and assistance to develop this master transportation plan for our
community. Thank you.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you, Commissioner.
Tommy Eden, Austin.
MR. EDEN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman and commission members. My name is Tommy
Eden. I am concerned about the need -- if you're dealing with federal programs,
the need for bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure whenever you do new
construction. And I want to provide you with copies of the Federal Highway
Administration's Design Guidance.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Did you ride your bicycle today?
MR. EDEN: Yes, sir.
I would like to point out to you on page 4, at the bottom of page 4, the
policy statement, which generally states that bicycle and pedestrian facilities
will be included in any new construction and reconstruction projects except
where either bicyclists and pedestrians are prohibited by law or where the cost
of establishing these facilities would be excessively disproportionate to the
need or probable use or where sparsity of population or other factors indicate
an absence of need.
TxDOT's policy does not conform with this policy. According to TxDOT, the
department provides for sidewalk construction on designated state highway system
when replacing an existing sidewalk where highway construction severs an
existing sidewalk system making connections within a highway right of way to
restore sidewalk system continuity or where pedestrian traffic is causing or is
expected to cause a safety conflict.
I would ask that any policies that you make conform with the Federal Highway
Administration's requirements. Thank you.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you, sir. And I'm not going to try to respond to your
concern at this moment, because I'm not that aware of this particular issue, but
I am going to request to our executive director, Mike Behrens, that he have
someone in the department check into this and respond officially back to you. So
we have your address? This is your -- okay. This is your proper mailing address.
And we will do that.
MR. EDEN: Thank you.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you.
I'm showing -- now, I had a card for Sam Dawson, but as I understand it, you
did not want to speak, but is that correct? Okay.
Now, I have no other cards from the public or this audience with regards to
the public hearing. Is there anyone in here who wanted to speak who did not fill
out a card? Please raise your hand.
(No response.)
MR. NICHOLS: If not, do you have any additional comments or closing?
MR. WILLIAMSON: No, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: Then I declare the public hearing closed. And we're going to
take a short break to allow our next delegation to come in. So we're going to
take about a three-minute break, three-minute recess.
(Off the record.)
MR. NICHOLS: We are reconvened. We very much appreciate the long distance you
all have traveled to be here today. And I'm somewhat familiar with Big Spring. I
used to buy a lot of polystyrene from up there.
MR. CROOKER: Oh, that's great. We were blessed with a five-inch rain
yesterday, I understand. It's our first rain in so long I can't remember when it
happened. It doubled our rainfall, I think.
MR. NICHOLS: You're Bill Crooker?
MR. CROOKER: Crooker. Yes, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: Okay. Go ahead and start, sir.
BIG SPRING CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
(Bill Crooker, Senator Robert Duncan, Kevin Evans, Mayor Russ McEwen)
MR. CROOKER: Good morning, Commissioners. I'm Bill Crooker, county
commissioner of Howard County. Our purpose this morning is to present to you the
need for a truck reliever route for US 87, the main north-south highway through
Big Spring.
Big Spring is located at the crossroads of US 87 North-South and Interstate
20 East-West. 2000 census report shows 33,627 people in the county with 25,233
of these living in the city. This is a small increase over 1990.
Our first speaker this morning is our state senator, Robert Duncan.
SEN. DUNCAN: Thank you. It's a pleasure, once again, to be -- this is a dual
appearance day for me, but I always enjoy being here again.
Big Spring is kind of right in the heart of the current Senate District 28,
and something happened along the way in redistricting and it got -- I don't know
what happened, but it got removed. We're trying to get it back. But I think this
crossroads issue is very important for us to look at, especially when we're
talking about east-west corridors and north-south corridors.
One of the primary -- and I think -- I always try to pick -- on
transportation projects, I think y'all have noticed, I've tried to pick a few. I
don't try to go for the whole bunch of them and be strong advocate for. This is
one that I am a strong advocate for, because if you've been to Big Spring, if
you're going north-south and you see -- if you go through the community there,
you'll see that a truck has to go through -- if it's going north-south, going
from Lubbock to San Angelo under the current configuration, or Amarillo, down
that highway, which is a major corridor, and will be more of a major corridor
with Port-to-Plains, it'll have to go through 52 intersections, eight signal
lights, and two school crossings in order to get through the city of Big Spring.
That obviously is a safety issue that we have. It's also an environmental
issue. It's also, as well, an efficiency issue for trucks that will be going
that way. We know that this is one of the key, and probably one of the first
projects, that ought to occur on the Port-to-Plains bypass, when we look at
these bypasses.
The committee -- or the community is 100 percent committed to this. We don't
even have to call it a reliever route. We can call it a bypass. The community
has committed significant local funds to obtain right of way, and this is a
high -- this is the highest priority in transportation in Howard County and Big
Spring. And they have been strong supporters and participants in the
Port-to-Plains concept that you recently approved with regard to the designation
of that corridor.
So I'm here to ask that you -- specifically, I believe, the prayer should
read -- select that this corridor or that this route be selected for phase 1 of
the trunk system when the corridor -- when the commission prioritizes your
Priority 2 corridors. So we would appreciate your consideration.
If there is any questions I can answer for you, I'll be happy to do so at
this time.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you.
SEN. DUNCAN: Thank you very much.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you, Senator.
MR. CROOKER: Thank you, Senator.
State Representative David Counts could not be with us today. He has written
a letter to each commissioner in support of the project, and I have given these
letters to Helen.
Our speakers this morning are myself, Bill Crooker, county commissioner of
Howard County; Kevin Evans, president of Ports-to-Plains Trade Corridor; and
Russ McEwen, our mayor.
The project began with a Lubbock to Interstate 10 Amarillo North Route Study
Phase 2, by HDR Engineering, published in September of 1997. This study
presented ten improvements possible for the Big Spring area. One of the ten, a
truck reliever route to the west of Big Spring, received 123 votes from 300
people attending this public meeting in May of 1997.
A task group was formed in December 1999 to study and determine the most
suitable route. The members were composed of city and county officials, chamber
of commerce members, citizens, and representatives of TxDOT's Abilene District.
After two public meetings in April 2001, a feasibility report outlining the
proposed project was written and distributed to interested parties in May of
2001.
The proposed project includes phased construction. Phase 1 would be a
four-lane divided highway with three intersections. There would be no frontage
roads now or planned in the future. This would be in compliance with TxDOT's new
frontage road policy.
Phase 1, the south section which you see on the screen, the reliever route is
the pink line starting at US 87 on the south side of Big Spring, proceeding
westerly, then turning north, going past the McMahon/Wrinkle Airpark, where it
meets Interstate 20 on the west side of Big Spring. This is approximately six
miles.
The blue line shown is the existing Interstate 20 and US 87 North.
Conceivably, a truck can enter the reliever route at US 87 South, take the new
highway to Interstate 20, then take Interstate 20 East to US 87, and then
continue on to the north. Thereby, using two existing roads, Interstate 20 and
US 87 North, the truck can bypass Big Spring.
Phase 2, the north section, would follow the blue line beginning at
Interstate 20, going in a north, then a east direction, connecting West 87 north
of Big Spring. This would approximately be seven miles.
Howard County, by resolution, is willing to pay for the right of way and
utility adjustments in Phase 1, estimated at $300,000. I have a copy of the
resolution, and it has been given to Helen.
Incidentally, in our last project of widening US 87 back about 12 years ago,
we committed to TxDOT about $750,000, and we're glad to do this. We understand
the reasoning.
The 1999 ADT for US 87 through the city was between 11- and 13,000 vehicles
per day. There are four factors, however, that will significantly impact the
future traffic. They are US 87 is a high-priority corridor in the National
Highway System; US 87 is a Priority 1 Texas Trunk System route; US 87 is
designated as part of the Ports-to-Plains Trade Corridor by TxDOT; and US 87 is
the primary route for the Texas Agricultural Corridor.
Route selection rationale is the east route, Farm Road 700 to Interstate 20,
has become a main artery for local traffic, and many businesses have been
located along this route, including a Wal-Mart Supercenter and a shopping mall.
Current speed limit is 45 to 50 miles per hour. Overpasses would need to be
constructed at seven intersections in order to move through traffic at 60 miles
an hour.
However, the west route has the lower overall cost, has even terrain, passes
within one-half mile of the McMahon/Wrinkle Airpark, and would need no
overpasses.
Our recommendations include the following: that TxDOT construct a truck
reliever route west of Big Spring. We are seeking project-specific funding, and
funding level will be $15 million.
The advantages are there's a strong public support for this project, as
evidenced by the May 1997, September 2000, April 12 and April 24, 2001, public
meetings attended by over 300 persons.
The preferred route has a minimal amount of right of way to obtain, while
using the maximum amount of existing roadway. It frees the main north-south
corridor through the community to local traffic. It will reduce traffic
accidents and provide a hazardous cargo route around the city, which I think is
very important.
A reliever route west of Big Spring would encourage industrial development at
our McMahon/Wrinkle Airpark, help fulfill Ports-to-Plains and Texas Trunk System
objectives, has the potential of giving some relief to the heavy traffic on
Interstate 35 corridor.
And now we will hear from Kevin Evans, president of Ports-to-Plains Corridor.
MR. EVANS: Thank you, Bill.
Gentlemen, on the map that you have there before you, you see a lot of green
stars. Those represent reliever routes that are working at some stage or another
in those communities along the route. And as Randy Neugebauer pointed out
yesterday in a meeting I was at, some of those are in the matchbook stage, where
they're still drawing pictures on the back of a matchbook, talking about it in
the coffee shop. Some of them are in construction. Some of them in line to be
funded. And then at the heart of our route in Texas, you have Big Spring. As you
can see, they're fairly far along on their planning process.
We feel like we have a transportation crisis here in Texas. Proposition 15 --
and by the way, congratulation on all of your work on that -- is going to go a
long way to help that and begin the process, we hope. But still, you can see the
statistics there I get from Bill Webb, president of TMTA here in Texas: 31
million by 2025; 50 percent increase in the overall state; 50 percent of that
will be in the DFW/Houston areas. They're going to need more alternative routes,
more relief of some type. We hope to be that relief.
Truck crossings up, commercial mileage up -- all those things you're aware
of. Trade traffic increasing. I like to use this slide because I got the
information from Ed Wueste here at TxDOT, going from, I believe, around '99-2000
of $200 billion a year trade with Mexico to 800 billion by the year 2010 was the
estimate we had at that time; current annual rate of increase about 15 percent.
There's going to be an increase in trade traffic in Texas. We don't -- we
know we're not going to get the lion's share of that increase, but obviously, we
are going to benefit and be responsible for a big part of that up the
Ports-to-Plains Corridor.
TEA-21, Ports-to-Plains, and Big Spring share some common goals. Promoting
safety for the route is a very obvious need. If you've ever been down Gregg
Street, it is an amazingly long journey, and it is, even with the great
improvements that have been made in recent past, still very dangerous and very
tedious for trade traffic.
We will improve access along the route. The interconnection with I-20 will be
greatly improved. Construction of the reliever routes utilize less congested
border crossings. We're promoting that very heavily in Acuņa-Del Rio and Piedras
Negras-Eagle Pass -- alternative routes, economic development, and balanced
growth.
Big Spring is at the heart of the Ports-to-Plains route in Texas, and they
need a reliever route sooner than later. And you'll notice -- you may not have
known that Michael Behrens was a doctor, but there he is performing a bypass
operation for Big Spring.
Thank you.
Yes, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: Go ahead.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Let me wait for the appropriate time to raise this question.
MR. EVANS: I didn't say "fair share."
MR. WILLIAMSON: I know. And we appreciate that.
(General laughter.)
MR. WILLIAMSON: And I know that you never made that argument. Even in
Ports-to-Plains you never made that argument. You made the argument that it was
in the state's best interest.
MR. EVANS: Yes, sir.
MR. WILLIAMSON: I personally appreciate that. I want to know if it's possible
to bring the slide back up that had all the green stars on it. Can that be done?
MR. EVANS: May take him a second to run through them.
MR. WILLIAMSON: And I want to ask you, as a person who's identified -- among
many, but you're prominently identified with the Ports-to-Plains concept -- has
anyone involved in Ports-to-Plains started to discuss the possibility of a
Regional Mobility Authority to expedite or to entrepreneurially plan to bring
Ports-to-Plains to fruition much faster than we all realize is possible in the
current funding scenario?
MR. EVANS: The board has not discussed it openly. Randy Neugebauer and I and,
of course, Tommy Gonzalez, my predecessor, and one other board member locally
have had that discussion just recently.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Well, the reason I ask the question is one of the persons
involved in it -- there's no reason to bring his name into it -- opined to me
recently that if you took the tax base from Stratford to Del Rio -- not down to
Laredo yet, but just from Stratford to Del Rio -- if you looked at the tax base
of those counties and communities that would benefit directly from
Ports-to-Plains, you could make a reasonable argument that a combination local
government-state government-private sector partnership might could well pull off
a transportation corridor that included concrete and rail that would result in
tremendous economic benefits to those tax bases to the extent that those tax
bases could afford to make some financial commitments to the whole project.
And I just want to encourage you to explore that. I mean, I think there's --
if Lubbock, Senator Duncan would argue that a completed Ports-to-Plains would
provide X amount of economic growth; if Del Rio could argue that a completed
Ports-to-Plains, at least at their border crossing, would result in X amount of
international trade; if Stratford could argue that Ports-to-Plains would result
in finished cotton crops or milo crops or whatever being processed and sent to
market sooner, and then the argument is we will all benefit economically if we
will invest, is it possible to figure out a local government-state
government-private sector partnership that can make this thing happen a lot
faster?
And I just would encourage you to do that.
MR. EVANS: We would love to explore it, and I will be visiting with you more
about it in the future and get some more of your ideas.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Proposition 15 gives us at the commission tools to do things
that we haven't had in the past. And we are open for business, and we're
thinking outside the box.
MR. EVANS: Appreciate it very much.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you, Kevin.
MR. EVANS: Thank you. And now I introduce Mayor Russ McEwen.
MR. NICHOLS: Welcome, Mayor.
MAYOR McEWEN: Thank you, sir. Appreciate the chance to be here. And,
Commissioner Williamson, it's an intriguing idea that you have, one that I have
not heard about up till now, but certainly does have great merit as I think
about what we're trying to do in Big Spring, obviously, and then looking at what
we want to do up and down the corridor. I think --
MR. WILLIAMSON: Well, Mayor, and I have to give credit where credit's due.
MAYOR McEWEN: Yes, sir.
MR. WILLIAMSON: The man that appointed me to this position told me a year ago
he had a vision for transportation in this state, and he intends his vision to
be brought to fruition. And Proposition 15 is a large part of the governor's
plan to rebuild the infrastructure of the state. And he was deadly serious when
he told me that, and he's deadly serious now. He wants to get Texas moving.
MAYOR McEWEN: Well, obviously, you are too, and I commend you for that, sir.
We do have safety issues in Big Spring that are significant, as Senator
Duncan alluded to earlier, as to the number of places that US 87 has crossings
in our community. US 87 uses an existing city street that passes through the
main business district in Big Spring.
And if you're familiar with Big Spring at all, you know that there are
significant grade changes on this street that create hazardous intersections at
FM 700, 10th Street, 4th Street, and Sgt. Paredez Street. At each of these
intersections, trucks must contend with stoplights after traveling significant
distances on fairly severe down slopes.
Approximately 1,750 trucks pass through Big Spring via US 87 on a daily
basis. These statistics are provided by TxDOT, and they've indicated an
approximate 5 percent increase in truck traffic on an annual basis.
It is our belief that there will be even a greater increase when US 277
between Del Rio and Sonora is finished and the extensive rebuild of US 87 at
Tahoka is completed.
From an economic standpoint, this reliever route will come within a half mile
of McMahon/Wrinkle Airpark with an exit running directly into the west side of
this facility. With the Ports-to-Plains Corridor becoming a major trade route,
the accessibility of an airpark, combined with the fact that Interstate 20 runs
directly north of McMahon/Wrinkle Airpark, gives Big Spring two major
opportunities for economic growth.
NAFTA will bring goods up this corridor that will need to be shipped north,
east, and west. This suits Big Spring's location perfectly. We are in an ideal
position to become a major warehousing and distribution location, because we
will be at the crossroads of IH-20 and Ports-to-Plains.
Secondly, intermodal transportation makes abundant sense at our airpark.
Using proposed and existing facilities -- these including a modern airpark with
a brand-new terminal, a railhead that could be expanded, and the proposed truck
reliever route -- it will give us an opportunity for intermodal transportation
that has become very important in today's economy.
I want to thank you for the opportunity to address you today and would
entertain any questions you might have.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you, Mayor. Is that the end of the presentation?
MAYOR McEWEN: No, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: Okay.
MAYOR McEWEN: Mr. Crooker has a short summary.
MR. NICHOLS: Any questions at this point? I'll reserve my questions to the
end. Thank you.
MAYOR McEWEN: Thank you, sir.
MR. CROOKER: Thank you, Mayor.
At this time, I would like very much to have the Big Springers and -- the
contingent from Big Spring and Ports-to-Plains persons present, please, stand
up. Thank you.
MR. NICHOLS: Did y'all drive in or fly in?
MR. CROOKER: I think they did both. I think the mayor said he came by boat.
MR. NICHOLS: By boat?
(General laughter.)
MR. CROOKER: At this time, I would like to extend my thanks and compliments
to Bill Hale, Abilene District Engineer, and his staff, in particular Art
Barrow, our Big Spring area engineer. They've been most helpful and supportive
in this project. In this summary, I'd like to say my sincere thanks to each
commissioner for your time and interest.
In closing, I would like to say this reliever route is a safety issue, an
economic issue, and a trade issue. We urge you to do everything possible to
bring this project to fruition in a realistic time frame. And I thank you very
much.
And now we would like to entertain any questions you might have.
MR. NICHOLS: Did you have any questions? I had a few. The original estimate
on this was about -- it may be that Bill Hale, which we're very proud of, by the
way, as a district engineer -- was about $49 million. Now, that's for an entire
four-lane divided for that entire --
MR. CROOKER: Correct.
MR. HALE: [inaudible]
MR. NICHOLS: Into the mike. We can't hear you. I can hear you, but --
MR. HALE: Okay. The department -- that's for the entire phase or entire
project from north to south of Big Spring.
MR. NICHOLS: On the west side.
MR. HALE: Right. And that first phase going up to 20, then over to 87, and on
up out of Big Spring is --
MR. NICHOLS: It was proposed to be -- in that first phase, to be a four-lane
divided?
MR. HALE: Yes.
MR. NICHOLS: Okay. As opposed to if we acquired enough right of way for a
four-lane divided and got a two-lane in there to start with, that would at least
begin the process so we can maybe take this thing in smaller -- okay. That's
what I was trying to understand.
MR. HALE: That's correct.
MR. NICHOLS: Okay. Now, that -- as I understand it, this route is on Phase 1
Corridor, Texas Trunk System?
MR. HALE: Yes, it is. We're asking for it to be on Phase 1 Corridor System.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: [inaudible]
MR. HALE: Okay. It is.
MR. NICHOLS: It's on the Texas Trunk System?
MR. HALE: Yes, it is.
MR. NICHOLS: Jim? Where's Jim? Is it on the Phase 1 Corridors of the Texas
Trunk System?
MR. HALE: Yes.
MR. NICHOLS: I think it is.
MR. HALE: Yes, it is.
MR. NICHOLS: I'm pretty sure it is. We have -- and I think this is important
for y'all to kind of recognize this. When we established the Phase 1 Corridors
of the Texas Trunk System, it was to try to take logical alignments with
geographical distribution around the state that would work for the entire state,
and then line up some of these gaps and fill them in.
And when we established that several years ago, the idea was to have the
whole thing, all those gaps closed in inside of ten years. And I think there's
about seven years left of hammering those gaps. I drive around through there;
I'm seeing some of them get closed now.
Now, we also recognized at that point that we did not address the reliever
route issue on those corridors, that we knew that as we got into the Phase 2,
for lack of a better word, that we needed to address those. We knew that
reliever routes, the arguments of, you know, what happens to our retail, and all
that kinds of stuff, would be more lengthy, that it would be a little more
expensive. We could get the long stretches quicker, more dramatic, and start
moving vehicles.
But Phase 2 hearings and what that money is to be spent for is approximately
scheduled to be next summer, probably at the end of the summer, somewhere in
there. I'm not sure. And we had thought -- and we almost did it last time -- and
I'm pretty sure that one of the big issues will be to take that funding
source -- not a new funding source, but that existing funding source -- and take
a percentage of that to apply to the reliever routes on the Phase 1 Corridors.
The great bulk of the Ports-to-Plains issue is -- route is on that.
So we know we can't create a corridor and shove all that traffic through the
middle of the cities that aren't prepared for it. But -- so that funding
source -- that's a perfect place for a project like this. And if you believe in
that and you want to have input into the criteria supporting that, you --
everybody in the state will receive notifications of those hearings that will
begin sometime next summer. So that would be a good opportunity to get in for
that also.
Secondly, I compliment you for a very good presentation. I used to -- as I
said before, I did -- I used to buy a lot of polystyrene out in Big Spring, and
I had forgotten all about that airport. But I lost an engine on my plane once
and landed there, and I will never forget that airport. They treated me real
nice there, so I appreciate it.
No other comments?
(No response.)
MR. NICHOLS: We thank you very much, and everyone who has driven so far,
flown, or come by boat. We recognize that you come -- communities don't happen;
they're built by people who are concerned. Y'all obviously are very concerned
about the future of your community and have taken that extra step away from your
daily lives and work to present your needs and dreams for your community, and we
very much appreciate that. And have a safe trip back, and thank you.
We're going to take a three-minute recess, give them an opportunity to leave.
(Whereupon, a short recess was taken.)
CITY OF WICHITA FALLS
(Judge Woodrow "Woody" Gossom, Representative David Farabee, Brooke Boddy)
MR. NICHOLS: Next delegation, City of Wichita Falls. Welcome. Judge Gossom.
JUDGE GOSSOM: Thank you, sir. Good to see you, Commissioner.
MR. NICHOLS: Good to see you again.
JUDGE GOSSOM: We enjoyed having you in Wichita Falls, and I hope you were
able to travel back 281 safely.
I did want to tell Commissioner Williamson, the last time we were down here
to talk about 281, he did ask if we could get right of way donated. Now, we've
done that to the Wichita County line, sir. I wanted to let you know. We even got
the road built all the way there too.
It does give us pleasure to come down and be able to visit with you all
today. We hope we can drag some of this rain back home with us, just in case you
get too much down here.
Mr. Behrens, it's good to see you. We haven't had a chance to talk with you
since you got your new position, but congratulations.
I do have one small thing. I want to be sure you realize something. Everybody
else got one of these ties last time. We want you to consider that tie
[inaudible] necktie [inaudible] Wichita Falls in the center of that, we'd like
you to proudly wear it.
At this time I would like to ask Representative David Farabee from Wichita
County to come forward to speak. He'll be followed by Brooke Boddy representing
Representative Hardcastle's office.
REP. FARABEE: Thank you, Judge Gossom. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and
Commissioner. And, Mr. Behrens, welcome. Good to have you aboard.
It's neat to have this opportunity today. Yesterday as I was driving in, I
thought I could beat traffic through Fort Worth, so, Commissioner Williamson, I
took 180 over at Mineral Wells and hit 171, and it took me about 45 minutes
longer. So anyway, I got a taste of Weatherford, had an opportunity to go
through your beautiful community and see your courthouse again. It's always a
neat experience.
MR. WILLIAMSON: We hope you left a few dollars.
REP. FARABEE: Oh, yes, I did. Yes. I had to, at least -- yes, because there
were just a few stoplights on that route.
As you will hear from our distinguished county judge and you will also see by
the attendance of the numerous local officials in our region, these projects are
important for our area. And I join Representative Hardcastle and his staff
member today in affording my strongest support.
As you'll hear, the interchange at US 287 and US 82 and 277 is structurally
ready to go. We had the dedication of that facility, our overhead, just this
week, and it was a neat experience.
My hat's off to John Barton and Joe Nelson who do a wonderful job. Anytime I
have a concern from one of my constituents on a transportation issue, I call
them, and then within hours, within hours, I hear back from the constituent
saying, They were the most pleasant people in the world to deal with. And so it
says a lot for them.
But it was a proud moment for us to dedicate the overhead just this week. But
that is our number one project, and you'll hear of some other projects as well
that are important to us, such as the extension of US 82/277, which we commonly
know as Kell Freeway, which is in progress.
But we need to continue the progress on that piece of transportation
infrastructure, because of the new industries and businesses that are locating.
We recently had one of the wireless companies that has located a 450-employee
operation on that piece of highway and adds to the transportation needs. That --
in front of that is in progress, the construction, but as we move further west
into Archer County, I think it's important that we also keep that project in
mind, and that would be US 82/277.
But again, if I were to come before you today and tell you what I feel is our
strongest need -- and I think you'll hear this again from Judge Gossom and other
members of our group making presentations or that you'll visit with -- is the
interchange of 82/287, now that we've got the overhead completed through the
city.
So I want to say thank you to Commissioner Nichols for coming to Wichita
Falls. Obviously the overwhelming support of Proposition 15 was buoyed by your
attendance at that meeting. And also to Commissioner Williamson, thank you for
making Weatherford a wonderful place to be last night as I traveled this way.
So are there any questions?
MR. NICHOLS: I'll probably save most of my questions till the end after we
hear all the comments and the presentation.
REP. FARABEE: Well, thank you for your hard work.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you for everything you do.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Will this be the only time you'll be at the podium?
REP. FARABEE: Today. I just wanted to get my fair share of time in today.
(General laughter.)
MR. WILLIAMSON: On a personal matter, Mr. Chairman, I have three children,
and I'm painfully aware that the road I travel through life will affect my
children. And I want to take this moment to tell you -- I don't know you
personally -- but I served on four intense and difficult conference committees
with Ray Farabee, and I shared some acreage with him for a time. And I want to
tell you that Ray Farabee paved the way for good thoughts about his family.
He was -- is, was one of the most dedicated and best public servants I
observed in my years in the legislature.
REP. FARABEE: Thank you. And rest assured that he and I talked before I
assumed my position. I asked him, you know, who are some of the shining stars
you've seen come through the process, and he commented on your ability to take
the budget and really work each agency to be responsible for their resources.
And your name came up in that conversation, so he thinks highly of you as well.
MR. WILLIAMSON: I appreciate that.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Thank you.
MS. BODDY: My name is Brooke Boddy, and I'm here today for Representative
Rick Hardcastle. And I first want to thank you for allowing me to come and speak
and for you to hear my comments. He isn't here today due to a family illness
that is keeping him in Vernon, but he did want me to share with you and that he
is very adamant of his -- he has such a strong support for this project and that
it does affect his district as well as Mr. Farabee's, in that House District 68
surrounds Wichita Falls on every side excluding Oklahoma.
But -- and all of the local highways feed into this area, and it is a safety
issue as well as an economic issue to have this corridor fixed.
Actually, that's -- I just wanted to show his support today of this -- both
of the priority of grades [phonetic] and to encourage your consideration. And I
will pass it on to the experts over here that have a lot more information than I
probably ever will.
But do you have any questions for me that I can answer on his behalf?
MR. NICHOLS: I don't.
Do you? No.
MS. BODDY: Thank you.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you very much.
JUDGE GOSSOM: I do want to thank Representative Farabee and Brooke for coming
representing Representative Hardcastle. They are -- you know, in the
redistricting process, one of the things we will hate to lose, we have right
now -- we're very fortunate to have dual representation of two good state
representatives there.
We do have a good delegation for the City of Wichita Falls, and I'd like to
recognize a few of those people. First of all, we have City Councilwoman Linda
Ammons. Also from our MPO, Staff Director Steve Seese is here. We have a
committee that's a city-county committee called Transportation Needs Committee,
and from that committee today we have Ms. Donna Adams, Mr. Paul Foley, Mr. J.W.
Martin. And citizens we have Jon Moller, one of the people that's been a vital
public support to this.
Also a couple of people that we have with us that we couldn't do without is
our district engineer, Joe Nelson, has come. And from my days as a county
commissioner to my days as a county judge, Joe has brought in and assembled a
staff -- John Barton's here, Andy Petter. When you go out there, it's not how we
can't do something; it's how can we do something. And that is a welcome
attitude, and that has got to be -- come from the top down to get out to the
field, and we appreciate it.
MR. WILLIAMSON: You mean he asked, Why not, instead of, Why?
JUDGE GOSSOM: Really, why not get it done today instead of tomorrow.
MR. WILLIAMSON: I like that.
JUDGE GOSSOM: I like that. I like that.
At this time, I would like to -- we're going to show you a video. This is not
going to follow the other information that you were sent by the delegation, so
if I could ask you all -- I assume that's the screen you all use, and we'll
follow through there and give you an idea of some of the highlights of our
petition.
If you look at this, this is a slide showing the regional concept of what you
have done for us already from Abilene to Wichita Falls in the designation of
277/82. If you look here, one of the things, thinking of the NAFTA concept, that
right now to go from El Paso to Oklahoma City, one route's 819 miles, while
another one's 799. The short route through Wichita Falls is 752.
As you fly here with me, you will see now a slide coming in from the north of
the new overhead project. As you look at that, it gives you an idea of the
expanse across the Wichita River and what happens there.
We now swing around, if you'd look -- this is the beginning of US 277/82, and
if you look here and here, those are two very important ramps. And if you look
up to the north, that's where we're going to be coming in from.
Right now, as you look at this slide, if you were coming north, you have to
get off and take the lower route and come through here. You can't take this exit
here. You can't come back this way. You're going to stay the lower route. These
ramps are going to be very important as we come in for people to exit to US
82/277 going west or coming in from the west to be able to go north or south is
important.
The last one will be the highest to come in. The view we're giving you here
at this time shows you that when people have to go to the lower area that
they're going to go through eleven traffic-controlled intersections. They're
going to come here and have to make this turn and look up and see, Gee, I
could've come straight through if that overhead would have let me get off --
we'll be there in a second -- somebody needs to push the accelerator just a
little bit.
Now, if you'll look right there, there's a ramp to nowhere. It will come and
land and come down and allow you to come in. The significance here of this slide
shows you that you have an intersection here -- that's the interchange -- comes
out here to Barnett Road and to Allendale Road. Both of these are level service
of E or below, all -- and including this one -- for what happens -- then we come
out here to Farm-to-Market Road 369.
This is what you're doing for us today. This is the beginning of the project
that's going to take you out to those other two intersections I pointed out
coming from the interchange.
If you note, those overpasses come in to cover those heavy traffic areas. In
that area, current construction of the four-lane from Kemp to Fairway, we have
seen the growth in this area -- you see the Lowe's sign there till Wal-Mart
that's just out of your picture to the south. Across the way is a 200-unit
assisted living center, a brand-new car dealership, a new strip mall.
Representative Farabee mentioned the Cingular Wireless with 450 employees in
it. There's another 200-unit assisted living center there, and behind it a
400-unit apartment complex. As we pan back, you're seeing the addition to a
subdivision that had been there for years that now is doubled, and back in the
area you see a new school.
This area is growing significantly as we look at it. Those intersections --
we show you again -- if those are brought in to the program as the extension
beyond Fairway, we will take away what is becoming the two most dangerous
intersections in Wichita County.
I want to bring you back and talk to you just in a summary. What you see
here, we can't get up to that brand-new highway you have built us there. That's
the beginning of US 82/277, which will tie in to three other major highways
there.
Once again, I'd like to point out those ramps to the right side and to the
left are very important to have the safe traffic flow through Wichita Falls.
With those put in, we will gain mobility and safety and actually economy for
those people in the professional transportation industry.
MR. NICHOLS: I kept reaching for my seat belt every time I'd think it was --
JUDGE GOSSOM: Well, we had Les Finnell, former State Representative Charles
Finnell's brother, fly that for us. We really should have had his wife. She's
really a better pilot. But we couldn't say that; it was a free ride.
Let's tie together some things about this. You have much of this information
already to you. Funding. Wichita Falls began this project with the purchase of
the right of way in 1967. Since that time, we have developed an MPO group and
it's come together with the City of Wichita Falls, and working with the
endorsement of our district TxDOT office, there's a commitment of $5 million in
future 4-D funds to the interchange. There's a commitment of $4 million for the
final section of the main lanes.
Early completion of the overhead project, which without rain has gone very
well -- I'm not sure the tradeoff's as good, but it's been great -- that
project, with the overheads finishing early, will leave approximately $1 million
in that fund, and we would like to see that put into that interchange project.
The interchange ramps and the new overpasses will improve transportation and
efficiency for this very significant transportation corridor from the west of El
Paso to the Northeast. It makes an excellent tie-in.
While we're doing this, we're going to replace the service lanes that were
built in 1988 with the four-lane divided area. Those roads have decreased and
their deterioration has been 68 percent in the measurements since 1993 to 2000.
We're using service roads for main thoroughfares.
We have regional support in this. You have letters in the packet. We did talk
to Representative Counts, and he unfortunately couldn't be here for Big Spring's
presentation either. He sees both projects as vital to his district.
We want you to raise the priority of the second half of this. We want to see
it go into Phase 1 and be a high priority to open that corridor from the
interchange of the overhead highway of I-44 that brings together a tremendous
hub of highways. You have I-44, US 82/277, US 281, and US 287 that would come
into that area.
If you can do this for us, the effort that you gave to Abilene and to Wichita
Falls when you approved the four-laning of 277 to Wichita Falls, we won't get
them there and then bring them to a bottleneck. We could bring them to a safe
way to pass through Wichita Falls on the commercial route they have picked that
is the shortest from that direction going to Oklahoma City and the Northeast.
Thank you very much. We'd be glad to take questions.
MR. NICHOLS: Do you have any comments or questions? I had a couple.
JUDGE GOSSOM: Yes, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: So in summary, because of all the new construction on the
freeway and the corridor, what the problem is is we need more construction.
JUDGE GOSSOM: Yes, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: I'm teasing with you, but I think y'all have done a very good
job in putting together your projects and working with the district and showing
the needs and stuff and participating. And you've done it with a united front
from the Wichita Falls area.
JUDGE GOSSOM: Yes, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: And most everything that you're pointing out is of a regional
significance. I have driven across this route three times in the last three
weeks myself, and I remember before the flyover was constructed, I don't
remember how many stoplights there were, but I swear --
JUDGE GOSSOM: Eleven.
MR. NICHOLS: Okay. I was going to guess 12 or 13. But I'm sure you know.
Between the two of these, the interchange and the Kell Freeway, if you -- have
y'all, as an area, tried to prioritize one or the other, if we could only do one
of those two? I don't want to put you on the spot --
JUDGE GOSSOM: We have not formally done so. We knew you would likely ask
that, and I tried to avoid that in my presentation.
MR. NICHOLS: I understand.
JUDGE GOSSOM: But the honest realization is the ramps are the most important.
That's the significant congestion. But as you just pointed out, Commissioner,
the success of the ramps has even made the other traffic problems. When we do
this and you still have the crossings at Allendale and Barnett, which both have
farm-to-market road designations -- those are the two most unsafe crossings --
it's going to become readily apparent that we need to get to the west of
Farm-to-Market Road 369.
MR. NICHOLS: And as the missing gaps on that corridor are completed, you're
going to have increased truck traffic coming the other way.
So I may have a question to our district engineer. On the missing gap or the
two-lane gap that's going to four-lane between Abilene and up, what is the
status on that as far as the construction estimated completion? Or is that --
oh. That's in the other district, isn't it, part of it?
MR. NELSON: Well, part of it --
MR. NICHOLS: Oh. Y'all work together.
MR. NELSON: In our district, we are still awaiting letting the first project
and hope to be able to do that in 2003. And we are trying to accelerate the
plans so that we will be able to let them in a little more rapid succession. I
think our last project was to have been let in 2008.
MR. NICHOLS: The last of them?
MR. NELSON: Yes, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: So within a -- there'll be significant construction between
three years from now -- two years from now and five years from now --
MR. NELSON: Yes, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: -- with an estimated completion of about seven years.
MR. NELSON: Yes, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: And when that's completed, that's when you're going to start
seeing more trucks divert up to that area, I guess.
MR. NELSON: We're seeing our truck traffic increase. I think everybody around
the state is. But we have seen some pretty significant increases. Yes, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: Okay. Anything else?
MR. WILLIAMSON: No, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: All right. We very much appreciate y'all taking the time to be
here, and appreciate what y'all have done. And there's -- did you have something
else? I see --
JUDGE GOSSOM: Yes, sir. I do want to give you a resolution from Abilene
supporting this. The other thing, I'd like to just pull back in and kind of
remind: I know we've been blessed by you all's attention to the area. But in the
original investment put in by the City of Wichita Falls to buy the right of way
in today's dollars now is a $20 million commitment for a project that started
in -- as Arnold Oliver says, I was brand-new to the department, I went through,
I retired, and eight years later it still isn't complete, but it sure is a heck
of a lot farther along. We appreciate it.
Let me give you this resolution, and we're finished.
MR. NICHOLS: Thank you, sir.
JUDGE GOSSOM: Thank you.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Thank you.
MR. NICHOLS: That's it? Complete?
JUDGE GOSSOM: Yes, sir.
MR. NICHOLS: All right. Thank you very much for the trip. I assume most of
y'all -- drive safely. The street's wet; be careful. And I look forward to being
back up in the Wichita Falls area. Y'all's hospitality is always very nice.
We're going to declare a three- to five-minute recess so y'all can have a
chance to get up and go. Thank you very much.
(Whereupon, a short recess was taken.)
P R O C E E D I N G S (Resumed)
MR. NICHOLS: We'll reconvene. Item Number 3, approval of the minutes from the
October 25 meeting.
MR. WILLIAMSON: So move.
MR. NICHOLS: Second. All in favor?
MR. WILLIAMSON: Aye.
MR. NICHOLS: Aye. Motion carries.
And now we have a resolution. Great pleasure. Kirby Pickett. Where's Kirby?
What? There he is. Kirby, come up to the front. We have something kind of
special for you up here.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Wait a minute, Mr. Chairman. I went out and bought a pair of
brown pants for you.
MR. PICKETT: Very good. I appreciate that, Commissioner.
MR. NICHOLS: Now, we've got -- we know how much you like informal -- things
to be informal and casual and things of that nature. So today's we're going to
do it in a very formal manner. A resolution, framed, sealed, signed. Stand up
and read it:
Whereas, the Texas Transportation Commission takes great pride in recognizing
Kirby Pickett, an outstanding, dedicated transportation engineer, who has served
the Department of Transportation for four decades, most recently as deputy
executive director;
Whereas, Mr. Pickett earned a civil engineering degree, 1961, University of
Texas and received his license professional engineer in 1965 and license in
professional land surveyor -- I didn't realize that -- in 1980; devoted 40
years -- 40 years -- of his life to public service by holding various positions
including engineering assistant, Mount Vernon; area engineer, Sulphur Springs;
district design engineer and assistant district engineer of Paris, Texas; became
district engineer in Waco District in 1986; performed exceptionally in
fulfilling his responsibilities for all transportation projects and programs in
the eight-county district;
Whereas, he was recognized by his peers as the Dean -- you have to be kind of
old, as I understand, on that one -- Dean of the District Engineers, 1995; and
championed the department's research program by pursuing his commitment to
deliver quality transportation products and services, keen interest in and deep
appreciation for the rich history of the department prompted his oversight in
the opening of the department's historical exhibit in the Dewitt Greer Building;
Whereas, Mr. Pickett is an exemplary and distinguished gentleman, highly
regarded by his wife Gerry and his son John as a committed and devoted husband
and father; and
Whereas, Mr. Pickett will now retire -- although I understand you have to
stay till the end of the month --
MR. PICKETT: Yes.
MR. NICHOLS: -- although he will now retire from public service to pursue a
life of private endeavors, the department and the Transportation Commission
hereby recognizes and thanks Kirby Pickett for his professional career
achievements and loyal service on behalf of the State of Texas. Signed by the
entire commission.
So, congratulations.
(Applause.)
MR. PICKETT: Well, thank you very much. It's been interesting. In some ways,
it seems like a very short time ago that I started. I think there are a lot of
factors in deciding when to retire, and until August when Wes retired -- we have
eight pictures on the back wall of previous state highway engineers. Until Wes
retired, before they put his picture up, I had not worked for all of them. Gib
Gilcrest left the department the year I was born is the reason that happened.
But once they moved his over to the side wall and put Wes' up, I now have
worked for all eight of the folks on the back wall, including, since September,
Mike. So I think that was a good clue for me.
But anyhow, do appreciate the resolution. And I'm going to miss seeing what
in the world y'all do next.
(General laughter; applause.)
MR. NICHOLS: Gerry, you want to come up here too?
(Pause for photographs.)
MR. NICHOLS: Okay. Mike, I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to you to go
through the rest of the items.
MR. BEHRENS: Okay. We'll start with Item Number 5, which is a report from the
Grand Parkway Association, and Jim will introduce the folks from Grand Parkway.
MR. RANDALL: Jim Randall, Transportation Planning and Programming Division.
Department rules pertaining to transportation corporations require that a
corporation make an annual report to the commission on its current condition,
status of projects, and activities undertaken during the preceding 12 months.
Mr. David Gornet, director of the association, is here today to give you this
report.
MR. GORNET: Good morning, Commissioners. I appreciate the chance to come and
visit with you all and give a presentation on the status of the Grand Parkway
Association and our project.
First, I'd like to take the opportunity to introduce myself. Commissioner
Nichols and I have met previously. Commissioner Williamson, I don't know if I've
had the honor. I have 20 years' experience in transportation planning, have
spent the past two-and-a-half years with the association. Previously, you all
have heard from Ms. Diane Schenke as the past executive director of the
association. She resigned this past spring to join the Nature Conservancy of
Texas to go work on the green side and try to develop habitat, and she's looking
forward to working closely with the association so that she can do mitigation
projects and such to help preserve habitat while we can move forward with our
transportation needs.
And to assist me, I have recently hired Ms. Robin Sterry, who -- formerly of
TxDOT, she has 16-plus years' experience with TxDOT and most recently was the
Houston District environmental coordinator. And when I was looking for someone
to help assist me, I wanted someone that knew the project, knew the people, and
knew the process that was involved, and she fulfilled all of that to a T, and so
I welcome her assistance in us trying to push this project forward.
We'll go through a report on the status of the project. If y'all have any
questions, please feel free to interrupt me at any point in time. Robin, first
slide.
The Grand Parkway Project was first proposed in 1961 by the City of Houston
as part of its master planning efforts. In 1968, it was formally included on the
general study plan for the city of Houston for the 1990, their 20-year horizon
plan.
In 1984, the Grand Parkway Association was established as a state
transportation corporation. It's my understanding we are the last of the
remaining state transportation corporations. And the entire loop of the Grand
Parkway since 1984 has been designated as State Highway 99. We currently have
open, from I-10 to US 59, about 19 miles of that.
Next slide. The purpose of the Association of State Transportation
Corporations was to facilitate public-private partnerships between TxDOT, who
had limited resources, and local counties, cities, authorities in the Houston
region, such as the Metropolitan Transportation Authority or the Harris County
Tollroad Authority, and private landowners. The association works as a
go-between between all these organizations to help move the project forward as
quickly as possible.
Besides working that partnership, the Grand Parkway Association -- or the
Grand Parkway Project enhances regional mobility; we address the existing and
projected congestion; we look to minimize overall impacts to both the human and
natural environments, work on hurricane evacuation needs for the southern area
of the metropolitan region of Houston, and we try to exemplify responsible
planning.
For years the Grand Parkway has been identified as a project necessary for
the metropolitan area of Houston. It's been continued in the Houston-Galveston
area councils' master planning efforts for 2020 and now in 2025. We work to
preserve the corridor, provide for limited access highway, and ultimately we
hope to reduce the time and cost of project implementation through our
partnerships.
What we're trying to provide is not this, which is a picture of FM 1960,
which is oftentimes what happens when we have a good road, but growth occurs so
rapidly that we can't respond to those changes in a timely fashion. You end up
with a lot of congestion in an unsightly fashion.
We're trying to develop a highway without billboards. We use scenic
easements, when we can get those from the adjacent landowners, that's limited
access with no driveways on and off, that meets the needs of our transportation
system; that is, to provide mobility.
We're also trying to develop it with a minimum amount of frontage roads in
accordance with you all's June action. This has been in place since 1984 for the
Grand Parkway to try to minimize the amount of frontage roads so that we can,
again, address mobility and not the access to the local properties.
What we have is a highway that has ramps on and off, but the major
thoroughfares and ultimately the development will occur along the thoroughfare
network, and the highway will continue to serve its mobility functions.
This is an overall map. Segments have been labeled, obviously, going
clockwise, A through I-2. I'll go into details on each of the segments. That's
the general map. We have segments A and B, which are in the -- A goes from 146
to I-45 in the League City and Dickinson area of Galveston County. As yet, we
have no studies underway in that area, and we're not expecting to start a study
in that area in the near future.
Segment B, the commission has recently acted on a partnership with Brazoria
County. Galveston County is funding this out of its bond issue that it did last
November, for us to initiate a study. We're now negotiating those contracts with
a consultant and with the Houston District to get those approved.
Segment C, you all probably received some comments in years past on the
actions that we're taking there and looking at alternate alignments that were
close to Brazos Bend State Park, and those have received a lot of opposition.
The blue line we're proposing there is a mile and a half north of the state
park. It's out of the watersheds of the streams that feed into the state park
and will minimize impacts in there. It still traverses a large part of the
Brazos River flood plain, but unavoidably, we're going to cross the Brazos River
down in there somewhere.
The remaining activities we have on C, we've already had the draft
environmental impact statement, the public hearing. We're looking forward to
publishing the final environmental impact statement this spring and getting a
record of decision as soon as possible so we can move that forward.
Fort Bend County, last November, passed a bond issue that included $7.3
million of design money, and they're looking forward to participating and
partnering with TxDOT to move into construction as quickly as possible.
Segment D is the segment open 19 miles from US 59 to I-10. That's had a
tremendous amount of traffic growth over the past few years, 40 percent from '97
to '99. We do not have 2001 numbers yet.
The next segments we're looking as a package, Segment E, F-1, F-2, and G,
that go from I-10 to US 290 to State Highway 249 to Interstate 45 North to US 59
North around the west and northern sides from the metropolitan Houston area.
That study started in July of 1999. We're anticipating four environmental
documents for that. It's possible that it could become a tollroad. The Harris
County Tollroad Authority and TxDOT are participating in the funding of the
route environmental studies for this.
There's also some interest in designating that as I-69. U.S. Representative
Kevin Brady is very supportive of that being I-69, although that does raise some
concerns with local citizens, particularly in the F-2 area, over the increased
truck traffic.
The progress we've had on that -- we started in July of '99. We held meetings
in August '99, February and June of 2000, and we looked at going from a wide
study area, narrowing that down to corridors and then to specific alignments for
consideration. Those alternative alignments through that whole area we presented
in October, and we've been taking comments on that and refining that.
And in specific segments, on E we go from the orange alignments that were
recommended ones to the purple one that is the preferred route that we're going
to be documenting our draft environmental impact statements.
On Segment F-1, again, we had numerous alternatives and a preferred route
that we intend to recommend.
Segment F-2 -- this is an area where we had a lot of concern, and you all
probably got letters from -- and the laser pointer's not working very well up
there -- south of where it says Spring Creek, west of the town of Old Town
Spring, we have -- you can see with the greater number of alternatives, we were
trying to find a solution that worked to avoid impacts to the businesses, to the
homes in the area, as well as to minimize impacts to the developments that are
oncoming.
That's a very rapidly growing area, and I've had statements made by the local
citizenry, Why would you want to put a new road in the fastest growing part of
Harris County. And I think they've answered the question for themselves, is
because we need to look at transportation as an infrastructure, just like water
supply or drainage, that they need to -- we need to plan for so that as the area
grows, we can make those improvements.
Segment G from I-45 to US 59, again, the alternate routes and the route that
we look to recommend as the preferred. The schedule of activities remaining is
to publish the draft environmental impact statements for all four segments. They
will be done sequentially, starting with E and then F-1, F-2, and G.
When I talked about those recommended preferred alternatives early, those
have all been coordinated through continuous meetings with the resource
agencies, have been as cooperative as you might expect on a new location highway
project, as well as with the TxDOT district personnel, personnel in Austin, and
Federal Highways. And we've come to consensus on what to recommend based on
minimizing impacts to the human and the natural environment.
Again, we're going to publish the draft environmental impact statements, hold
our public hearings, do the final environmental impact statements, and hope to
have records of decisions on those segments in 2003.
Again, Harris County Tollroad Authority, the Harris County government, is
very interested in moving this as fast as possible and would like to partner
with TxDOT. And the passing of Proposition 15 will help facilitate that, and so
that could move it into construction in as early as 2004, if the resources
available are available with TxDOT as well as with the Harris County Tollroad
Authority.
One segment we don't have any studies on, or two segments, are H and I-1.
When we met yesterday morning with the Montgomery county judge who has part of
segment H, he says, We need to do this whole thing. And I said, Well, Judge,
when you talk to Gary Trietsch there in the Houston District, or if you have a
chance to visit with any of our commissioners, tell them that, and we'll see how
we can move to build the partnership to get that planned and move forward so
that we can have the corridor preserved and be ready to address the needs of
that area as it grows.
Segment I-2 is ready for construction. We're signing the donation deeds on
that segment. It's currently -- it's programmed for April of 2003, and we sure
hope to hit that target date -- for the northern segment in -- April 2002 for
the northern segment, 2003 for the southern. And that will match with the
agreements that Commissioner Nichols negotiated with the U.S. Steel Corporation
two or three years ago, so that we can continue to get their funding and their
donations.
That's the end of our presentation. I'd be glad to answer any questions.
MR. NICHOLS: Do you have any questions?
MR. WILLIAMSON: You do work for this association.
MR. GORNET: Yes, sir. |